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Old June 7th 04, 08:55 AM
Tamas Feher
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Default Bulldozing US Homeland Defence.

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/0...age/index.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5139598/

A home-made armored Caterpillar turns Colorado into Palestine?

One and a half hours is not enough to scramble an A-10 Warthog or an
Apache attack chopper to knock out that concrete-armored caterpillar?
What the hell the Colorado ANG was doing?

Damn, if the driver was Musa al-Zarqawi, he could crawl all the way to
Chicago and razor the Sear Tower with confused cops firing pistols
at him to no avail!

Don't tell me this scenario was unexpected. Some two years ago a drunken
guy ran amok with an M-60 tank. He was finally stopped by a static
obstacle, which just like this case, had nothing to do with law
enforcement.

The incompetence of namby-pamby US authorities ridiculizes America all
over the world. Waco, Columbine and many other SWAT or anti-terrorist
operations have been screwed. No matter which agency, US spec-ops just
suck. Everyone is so diligent about covering his/her ass
administratively and kevlar-wise that the job never gets done well and
civilians and officers are getting killed in the end, not to mention the
resulting PR disaster. It is time to learn from the Russians and the
Germans.

The governor and the ANG leadership should be fired with regards to this
bulldozer incident. Sitting idle is not in-line with best american
tradition!


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Old June 7th 04, 10:27 AM
Jim McLaughlin
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"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/0...age/index.html
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5139598/

A home-made armored Caterpillar turns Colorado into Palestine?

One and a half hours is not enough to scramble an A-10 Warthog or an
Apache attack chopper to knock out that concrete-armored caterpillar?
What the hell the Colorado ANG was doing?

Damn, if the driver was Musa al-Zarqawi, he could crawl all the way to
Chicago and razor the Sear Tower with confused cops firing pistols
at him to no avail!

Don't tell me this scenario was unexpected. Some two years ago a drunken
guy ran amok with an M-60 tank. He was finally stopped by a static
obstacle, which just like this case, had nothing to do with law
enforcement.

The incompetence of namby-pamby US authorities ridiculizes America all
over the world. Waco, Columbine and many other SWAT or anti-terrorist
operations have been screwed. No matter which agency, US spec-ops just
suck. Everyone is so diligent about covering his/her ass
administratively and kevlar-wise that the job never gets done well and
civilians and officers are getting killed in the end, not to mention the
resulting PR disaster. It is time to learn from the Russians and the
Germans.

The governor and the ANG leadership should be fired with regards to this
bulldozer incident. Sitting idle is not in-line with best american
tradition!


Ahhh, just maybe the military isn't generally used to enforce domestic
law... Posse Comitatus Act and such, controlling use of army and air force
assets in continental US...sort of the idea that the government actually
follows the law...

Yeah, lets fire 'em all for actually following the law.... no real
"Mercun lets little things like law and constitution get in the way of
shooting up some domestic bad 'un!

-- Jim McLaughlin

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Old June 7th 04, 10:46 AM
Tamas Feher
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Posse Comitatus Act and such

...do not affect the ANG (Air National Guard), of course. You didn't read
the very post you replied to!


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Old June 7th 04, 01:14 PM
Nicholas Smid
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"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
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Posse Comitatus Act and such


..do not affect the ANG (Air National Guard), of course. You didn't read
the very post you replied to!

Well given the common side effects of Israils use of air to serface
missiles, for terminating people who dare to disagree with them, sending in
the ANG to blow **** up might well kill more people than letting the idiot
drive around for a while. And given that if the missile so much as musses a
bystanders hair the county sheriff gets sued for his liver and lungs you can
see how they might be a bit reluctant to let the ANG drop bombs all over
their town.



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Old June 8th 04, 12:54 PM
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Disagree with them? ROFLOL if you call sending people to blow up busses
and all that are in them disagreements then you need to get to some anger
management classes fast!

--
"I have seen the worst that man can do.and I can still laugh loudly"
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"Nicholas Smid" wrote in message
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"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
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Posse Comitatus Act and such


..do not affect the ANG (Air National Guard), of course. You didn't read
the very post you replied to!

Well given the common side effects of Israils use of air to serface
missiles, for terminating people who dare to disagree with them, sending

in
the ANG to blow **** up might well kill more people than letting the idiot
drive around for a while. And given that if the missile so much as musses

a
bystanders hair the county sheriff gets sued for his liver and lungs you

can
see how they might be a bit reluctant to let the ANG drop bombs all over
their town.





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Old June 7th 04, 03:18 PM
Aardvark J. Bandersnatch, MP
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"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
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Posse Comitatus Act and such


..do not affect the ANG (Air National Guard), of course. You didn't read
the very post you replied to!


Indeed it *does* affect the Air National Guard. Internal law enforcement is
left to the civil authorities. The national guard would not be involved
unless the governor of the state orders units to respond.


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Old June 7th 04, 04:47 PM
Duke of URL
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"Aardvark J. Bandersnatch, MP" wrote in message
news:mP_wc.12741$HG.7059@attbi_s53...
"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
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Posse Comitatus Act and such


..do not affect the ANG (Air National Guard), of course. You didn't read
the very post you replied to!


Indeed it *does* affect the Air National Guard. Internal law enforcement

is
left to the civil authorities. The national guard would not be involved
unless the governor of the state orders units to respond.



Very small nit: In the event of a *total* breakdown of law and order and the
*total* inability of *all* local law-enforcement agencies to do their jobs,
the Governor *may* declare Martial Law. At that time, he hands over total
control of everything within his State to the State Commander of the
National Guard (the ANG Commander answers to him).
The situation in Granby didn't even equal a pimple on the ass of that size a
monster, so it didn't happen.
--
The One-and-only Holy Moses™


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Old June 7th 04, 07:58 PM
Jim McLaughlin
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"Tamas Feher" wrote in message
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Posse Comitatus Act and such


..do not affect the ANG (Air National Guard), of course. You didn't read
the very post you replied to!



Thank you for confirming that you haven't the faintest idea what you are
talking about.



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Jim McLaughlin

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Old June 7th 04, 01:05 PM
Steven James Forsberg
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: The incompetence of namby-pamby US authorities ridiculizes America all
: over the world. Waco, Columbine and many other SWAT or anti-terrorist
: operations have been screwed. No matter which agency, US spec-ops just
: suck. Everyone is so diligent about covering his/her ass
: administratively and kevlar-wise that the job never gets done well and
: civilians and officers are getting killed in the end, not to mention the
: resulting PR disaster. It is time to learn from the Russians and the
: Germans.

Learn from the Russians? Oh, yes, they have certainly defused that
whole Chechnya thing. If the Russians had responded to the above incident,
their artillery would have destroyed 3 times as many buildings as the enemy,
they would have shot down an unsuspecting airliner, and the State of Colorado
would be so enraged as to be on the point of secession. Russian interpretation
of Teddy Roosevelt: Talk big, carry a stick, beat yourself with it...

regards,
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