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Perfect? How old are you?
Have you ever- ever- even heard of anything in reality (outside of various faith systems) ever even remotely considered "Perfect" anywhere, anytime? What are you, nuts? Or just a kid? Sorry for the sarcasm and "impoliteness." But this feigned ignorance as a way to bait an unasked question is, well, sophomoric. Therefore, I feel free to sink to your level without regret. Steve Swartz (Note: *You're* the one assuming a voting system can be made perfect. I'm the one claiming all along that there is a measurable margin of error in *all* voting systems- even hand-counting with a panel of unbiased judges, you're going to have measurable error.) "Ace" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 19:32:47 -0400, "Leslie Swartz" wrote: Oh By The Way- this fact of error rates in ballot counting apply to all countries using those systems . . . not just the U.S. So the system is flawed? Come back when you get a clue. It was a question, not a statement. Do you consider the US voting system to be perfect? |
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 13:39:44 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote: "Glenfiddich" wrote in message .. . Wrong analogy, Ed. The POTUS is head of state - in Britain that would be the Queen. You should have addressed how we elected our Queen. EG His analogy is correct. The US president is both chief of state and the head of government. And we were talking about the selection of the Chief Executive. I think the monarch relingquished most executive responsibilities in the UK along with his head during the reign of Charles I. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN #1-58834-103-8 |
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Look, Ace, I'm a teacher, but I am not certified in Special Education.
Steve Swartz (p.s it's a REPUBLIC; representative, yes; but NOT A DEMOCRACY) "Ace" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:13:48 -0400, "sanjian" wrote: Ace wrote: On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 20:02:24 -0400, "Leslie Swartz" wrote: So, by your own admission, in *The Great Democracy*, some people's votes count, others don't? When did this great Republic turn into a democracy??? Are you saying that the US isn't a democracy? |
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On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 23:56:43 -0600, "Daryl"
wrote: Now, start paying attention, because there is going to be a test. Ed Rasimus Dang Ed, where you been? Not cross-posting under the mistaken assumption that our "Ace" would be reading the responses in groups to which he delivers his inanities. My mistake. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN #1-58834-103-8 |
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Yes, evidence suggests that it is more likely that the ballots thrown out
(primarily, but not exclusively, absentee ballots) would have trended strongly republican or at least conservative. However, since they weren't counted, we can never know for certain. Past studies suggest that ~80% of absentee ballots tossed out would have gone for Bush. Steve Swartz "sanjian" wrote in message news:v%jJc.1221$8v2.1119@lakeread01... Leslie Swartz wrote: Ace: Do your homework. Fact- not opinion, fact- is that eht so-called "popular vote" was undecided. A statistical tie, more accurately. We will *never* know who actually received the most votes, because: 1) Not all votes were counted. It's legal in most places to discard votes if they won't tip the electoral scales. Therefore, in the "Bush" states many Gore votes (and potential additional Bush votes) were discarded, and vice versa. The majority of which were military absentee ballots. |
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 07:39:44 +0100, Ace wrote:
On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:24:26 -0600, Ed Rasimus wrote: So who has the greater number of votes cast in their favour? Bush or Gore? Bush. He had the most electoral votes. You change the question. Who had the greater number of votes cast in their favour? the popular vote is entertaining I like being entertained. Who had the greater number of votes cast in their favour. Bush or Gore? You like being an asshole. I'm not sure about your desire for entertainment. Let's start by once again reiterating that the popular vote is meaningless in the US with regard to election of the President. Constitutionally the process is handled by the Electoral College. But, since you continue to ask, I'll tell you. The analysis conducted in great detail regarding the popular vote for President in 2000 seems to indicate from a number of independent sources that George W. Bush received the greater number of popular votes. Ed Rasimus Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret) "When Thunder Rolled" Smithsonian Institution Press ISBN #1-58834-103-8 |
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
You're real putz, Ace. Still checking the calendar for that apology on your statement that "Gore Won The Popular Vote." Steve Swartz "Ace" wrote in message ... On 15 Jul 2004 03:23:38 GMT, Ian MacLure wrote: Oh By The Way- this fact of error rates in ballot counting apply to all countries using those systems . . . not just the U.S. So the system is flawed? All systens are flawed. At last an admission that the US system is flawed! We can now bring this section of the thread to a close. You may have the last word in defeat. |
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Ian-
No, Algore did NOT "receive the most votes cast in the popular election." That falsehood has definitely entered the popular folklore, apparently. Full circle argument; back to the beginning. Steve Swartz "Ian MacLure" wrote in message ... Ace wrote in : [snip] You change the question. Who had the greater number of votes cast in their favour? Algore. Trouble is they weren't where he needed them to be. And-uh there was no way the Daley brothers were able to work their electoral magic after the polls closed so Gore lost. Them was the rules. Same rules that got previous administrations elected. IBM __________________________________________________ __________________________ ___ Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com The Worlds Uncensored News Source |
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No way to know, Ace.
Jeeze, you really need to pay attention. Do I get two apologies now: One for the first time youj told this fib, and a second one for the second time? Steve Swartz "Ace" wrote in message ... On Wed, 14 Jul 2004 16:24:26 -0600, Ed Rasimus wrote: So who has the greater number of votes cast in their favour? Bush or Gore? Bush. He had the most electoral votes. You change the question. Who had the greater number of votes cast in their favour? the popular vote is entertaining I like being entertained. Who had the greater number of votes cast in their favour. Bush or Gore? |
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On Thu, 15 Jul 2004 07:21:22 +0100, Ace wrote:
[snip] Washington was a traitor to his King and to his country. Not that Yeah, the Rebellion Against LAwful Authority is problematic if viewed from that perspective but I dare say precious few in These United States look at it that way. different from Osama bin Laden - but Washington styled himself *general*. However, after the King granted the lessor portion of the North American continent, now known as the US, their independence, the Vae Victis. A gentleman Brennus established that principle in a fashion we still remember these two millenia and more later. Winners usually get to dictate the terms. peoples of the US had the right to afford the King's namesake status of general. It should be noted that this is shysterish hairsplitting. Washington filled a billet that calls for a General in most armies of the period if not a Field Marshal/Prince of the Blood. If Congress or the several states never got around to instituting a formal system of rank and promotions I think they can be forgiven and one suspects that the attitude was probably George knows best how to run that end of the business lets let him get on with the job. IBM __________________________________________________ _____________________________ Posted Via Uncensored-News.Com - Accounts Starting At $6.95 - http://www.uncensored-news.com The Worlds Uncensored News Source |
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