Sennheiser ANR

"G.R. Patterson III" writes:
Hm, I see. Obviously our experiences differ. Which Sennheiser models do you
own, actually?
HMEC 300.

That is exactly the model I have, too... Interesting. I assume that
the bad audio quality is there regardless to which type of intercom
the headset is hooked up? On a german aviation newsgroup, there has
been a short discussion lately that some intercoms can't handle
headsets with different mike impedances, so that may be a factor, but
I am no expert either in this sector. Other than that, I don't know.
Obviously, YMMV with Sennheiser headsets. Hm.

Cheers,
Toby.
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Tobias,

I am just curious as
to why our experiences differ so much.

Headsets are an extremely personal thing. Experiences are bound to vary
hugely.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned prices, too.

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Thomas Borchert (EDDH)

Tobias Dussa wrote:

"G.R. Patterson III" writes:
Hm, I see. Obviously our experiences differ. Which Sennheiser models do you
own, actually?
HMEC 300.

That is exactly the model I have, too... Interesting. I assume that

Same here. I heard in none of the David Clarks, Sigtronics, Pilot
Avionics, Telexes, Lightspeeds such crystal clear voice like in my
HMEC300, and also also in the small headset, which is by the by
virtually identical to the stadium reporter headset which you may
see so often in US tv in all sorts of sports transmissions. Bose is
also good, the X model is very expensive and problematic in case of
power loss, but it is through and through a high class piece of
equipment.

I can not believe that Sennheiser has not replaced any faulty units
or checked out why G.R's headsets under perform to such an extend.
But, so is the market, its very individual, they have "one less
customer" as I understand.


the bad audio quality is there regardless to which type of intercom
the headset is hooked up? On a german aviation newsgroup, there has
been a short discussion lately that some intercoms can't handle
headsets with different mike impedances, so that may be a factor, but

Correct! You might have to adjust the mike level as I had, especially
for the Sigtronics icoms. Since I do not own a bird, I fly so many
different aircraft and some of the icoms are really crappy.


By the way: The Sennheiser mikes are so good that you can adjust them
to work fine while maintaining a finger wide distance from your mouth.
I saw enough of "mike kissing" pilots with other makes and models!
My friend (a Bonanza owner) used to automatically grab the mike with
a hand and push toward his mouth while speaking with his Pilot Avionics.
Once he got the HMEC200 (used on eBay!), he stopped doing that...

Thomas


I am no expert either in this sector. Other than that, I don't know.
Obviously, YMMV with Sennheiser headsets. Hm.

Cheers,
Toby.
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Thomas Borchert writes:
I am just curious as
to why our experiences differ so much.
Headsets are an extremely personal thing. Experiences are bound to vary
hugely.

Of course the impressions are personal, but I figure that any distortion
of sound bad enough to render speech unreadable should be universally
detectable. If my headset were borderline, audio-quality-wise, then I
would not be surprised to hear someone say there is enough distortion
to make speech unreadable, but my pair is excellent, so I am somewhat
astonished.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned prices, too.

Prices don't matter when discussing technical differences and/or
problems. Prices do matter when it comes to making decisions by
weighting the pros and cons, but not when talking about sound
quality per se. BTW, regardless of the price of their headsets as
compared to Bose or whatever, they are clearly more than capable of
producing a decent-quality pair of headphones. In fact, given their
non-aviation product line, I do expect any Sennheiser product to be
top-of-the-line, at the very least with regard to audio quality.

Thus my astonishment.

Cheers,
Toby.
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Tobias Dussa wrote in message ...
Thomas Borchert writes:
I am just curious as
to why our experiences differ so much.
Headsets are an extremely personal thing. Experiences are bound to vary
hugely.

Of course the impressions are personal, but I figure that any distortion
of sound bad enough to render speech unreadable should be universally
detectable. If my headset were borderline, audio-quality-wise, then I
would not be surprised to hear someone say there is enough distortion
to make speech unreadable, but my pair is excellent, so I am somewhat
astonished.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned prices, too.

Prices don't matter when discussing technical differences and/or
problems. Prices do matter when it comes to making decisions by
weighting the pros and cons, but not when talking about sound
quality per se. BTW, regardless of the price of their headsets as
compared to Bose or whatever, they are clearly more than capable of
producing a decent-quality pair of headphones. In fact, given their
non-aviation product line, I do expect any Sennheiser product to be
top-of-the-line, at the very least with regard to audio quality.

Thus my astonishment.

Cheers,
Toby.

Hello my name is Michael Feldbauer and I am the Aviation Product
Manager for Sennheiser Electronic in the USA. First let me say if
anyone is having problems with their Sennheisers please contact me or
our Service department. We continue to strieve to please our
customers but we are aware that in some cases we fail.. Some of what I
have read is based on personal experiences and subjective views of
comfort and audio quality. However some of what is posted would seem
to be related to either a faulty headset or some compatibilty
problems. In most case we can help in both of these areas. There are
many fine products out there and this is good, what we don't want to
see is an unhappy customer if we can fix the problem. Good day and
happy flying.

Michael Felbauer wrote:

First let me say if
anyone is having problems with their Sennheisers please contact me or
our Service department.

Great! Mail has been sent.

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