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Ferry Pilot Down
Just got off the phone with NWPilot, calling me from a wake (at Hooters) for
a fellow ferry pilot who went down today in the North Atlantic, 50 miles short of Keflavik, Iceland. Here's the story, from Airliners.net: ************************************************** ************************************************* At 15:50 local time, contact was made with RKV ICG centre from a Cessna 310, arriving from Narsarsuaq, which had lost power in one of its engines, 60 miles off Keflavik. In an effort to pump fuel between tanks its feared both engines failed and the pilot had to rely on gliding the aircraft. At the time he was descending through 7000 ft heading towards Reykjavik. RKV ATC Centre initiated emergency status in KEF and the ICG Centre sent its Super Pumas, TF-GNA and TF-LIF out to the incident site. At 16:10 the Cessna 310 disappeared from radar, around 50 miles from Keflavik. A Challenger 604 from the Danish Air Force was sent straight to the scene of the incident and a full search was carried out from that point. TF-LIF arrived at the scene around 17:00. No sighting of the Cessna 310 had been made and no signal from the emergency transmitter was noticed. Three trawlers which were near the scene of the incident where called immediately into action and a full scale search was underway. A Cessna 172 aircraft was also involved in the search operation as well as various rescue boats from Slysavarnarfelagid Landsbjorg. ICGs own F27 TF-SYN was sent out as a surveillance aircraft to replace the efforts of the DAF CL604. A patrol vessel from the ICG was also sent out to help the search efforts. ************************************************** ************************************************* Pretty much a worst-case scenario. High seas, ice cold water, gliding a dead stick C-310 into 40-foot swells. NWPilot says he didn't start drinking until 3 hours after the crash -- survival time in the water is estimated at 2 hours, maximum, in a survival suit. The pilot's name was Jeff Hall, and he helped NW get into the biz. Raise a toast to a brave man, gents.... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Ferry Pilot Down
On Feb 11, 6:34*pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
Just got off the phone with NWPilot, calling me from a wake (at Hooters) for a fellow ferry pilot who went down today in the North Atlantic, 50 miles short of Keflavik, Iceland. Here's the story, from Airliners.net: ************************************************** ************************************************** At 15:50 local time, contact was made with RKV ICG centre from a Cessna 310, arriving from Narsarsuaq, which had lost power in one of its engines, 60 miles off Keflavik. In an effort to pump fuel between tanks its feared both engines failed and the pilot had to rely on gliding the aircraft. At the time he was descending through 7000 ft heading towards Reykjavik. RKV ATC Centre initiated emergency status in KEF and the ICG Centre sent its Super Pumas, TF-GNA and TF-LIF out to the incident site. At 16:10 the Cessna 310 disappeared from radar, around 50 miles from Keflavik. A Challenger 604 from the Danish Air Force was sent straight to the scene of the incident and a full search was carried out from that point. TF-LIF arrived at the scene around 17:00. No sighting of the Cessna 310 had been made and no signal from the emergency transmitter was noticed. Three trawlers which were near the scene of the incident where called immediately into action and a full scale search was underway. A Cessna 172 aircraft was also involved in the search operation as well as various rescue boats from Slysavarnarfelagid Landsbjorg. ICGs own F27 TF-SYN was sent out as a surveillance aircraft to replace the efforts of the DAF CL604. A patrol vessel from the ICG was also sent out to help the search efforts. ************************************************** ************************************************** Pretty much a worst-case scenario. *High seas, ice cold water, gliding a dead stick C-310 into 40-foot swells. *NWPilot says he didn't start drinking until 3 hours after the crash -- survival time in the water is estimated at 2 hours, maximum, in a survival suit. The pilot's name was Jeff Hall, and he helped NW get into the biz. Raise a toast to a brave man, gents.... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" So Sad............ Ben www.haaspowerair.com |
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Ferry Pilot Down
"Jay Honeck" wrote in message news:mI6sj.29479$9j6.4199@attbi_s22... Pretty much a worst-case scenario. High seas, ice cold water, gliding a dead stick C-310 into 40-foot swells. NWPilot says he didn't start drinking until 3 hours after the crash -- survival time in the water is estimated at 2 hours, maximum, in a survival suit. The pilot's name was Jeff Hall, and he helped NW get into the biz. Raise a toast to a brave man, gents.... *salute* Thanks for passing this on. -c |
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Ferry Pilot Down
Jay Honeck wrote:
Just got off the phone with NWPilot, calling me from a wake (at Hooters) for a fellow ferry pilot who went down today in the North Atlantic, 50 miles short of Keflavik, Iceland. Here's the story, from Airliners.net: ************************************************** ************************************************* At 15:50 local time, contact was made with RKV ICG centre from a Cessna 310, arriving from Narsarsuaq, which had lost power in one of its engines, 60 miles off Keflavik. In an effort to pump fuel between tanks its feared both engines failed and the pilot had to rely on gliding the aircraft. At the time he was descending through 7000 ft heading towards Reykjavik. RKV ATC Centre initiated emergency status in KEF and the ICG Centre sent its Super Pumas, TF-GNA and TF-LIF out to the incident site. At 16:10 the Cessna 310 disappeared from radar, around 50 miles from Keflavik. A Challenger 604 from the Danish Air Force was sent straight to the scene of the incident and a full search was carried out from that point. TF-LIF arrived at the scene around 17:00. No sighting of the Cessna 310 had been made and no signal from the emergency transmitter was noticed. Three trawlers which were near the scene of the incident where called immediately into action and a full scale search was underway. A Cessna 172 aircraft was also involved in the search operation as well as various rescue boats from Slysavarnarfelagid Landsbjorg. ICGs own F27 TF-SYN was sent out as a surveillance aircraft to replace the efforts of the DAF CL604. A patrol vessel from the ICG was also sent out to help the search efforts. ************************************************** ************************************************* Pretty much a worst-case scenario. High seas, ice cold water, gliding a dead stick C-310 into 40-foot swells. NWPilot says he didn't start drinking until 3 hours after the crash -- survival time in the water is estimated at 2 hours, maximum, in a survival suit. The pilot's name was Jeff Hall, and he helped NW get into the biz. Raise a toast to a brave man, gents.... These long over water ferry flights are much more dangerous than the average person might expect. The pilots engaged in this line of work deserve a lot of respect. I sincerely hope there was something friendly under him if he went down but I doubt that will be the case. Others have correctly stated the dangers. It's a shame about this pilot. NW Pilot has my sincere condolences with this. I know what it feels like to go through these things. -- Dudley Henriques |
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Ferry Pilot Down
On Feb 11, 5:34 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote:
Just got off the phone with NWPilot, calling me from a wake (at Hooters) for a fellow ferry pilot who went down today in the North Atlantic, 50 miles short of Keflavik, Iceland. Here's the story, from Airliners.net: ************************************************** ************************************************* At 15:50 local time, contact was made with RKV ICG centre from a Cessna 310, arriving from Narsarsuaq, which had lost power in one of its engines, 60 miles off Keflavik. In an effort to pump fuel between tanks its feared both engines failed and the pilot had to rely on gliding the aircraft. At the time he was descending through 7000 ft heading towards Reykjavik. RKV ATC Centre initiated emergency status in KEF and the ICG Centre sent its Super Pumas, TF-GNA and TF-LIF out to the incident site. At 16:10 the Cessna 310 disappeared from radar, around 50 miles from Keflavik. A Challenger 604 from the Danish Air Force was sent straight to the scene of the incident and a full search was carried out from that point. TF-LIF arrived at the scene around 17:00. No sighting of the Cessna 310 had been made and no signal from the emergency transmitter was noticed. Three trawlers which were near the scene of the incident where called immediately into action and a full scale search was underway. A Cessna 172 aircraft was also involved in the search operation as well as various rescue boats from Slysavarnarfelagid Landsbjorg. ICGs own F27 TF-SYN was sent out as a surveillance aircraft to replace the efforts of the DAF CL604. A patrol vessel from the ICG was also sent out to help the search efforts. ************************************************** ************************************************* Pretty much a worst-case scenario. High seas, ice cold water, gliding a dead stick C-310 into 40-foot swells. NWPilot says he didn't start drinking until 3 hours after the crash -- survival time in the water is estimated at 2 hours, maximum, in a survival suit. The pilot's name was Jeff Hall, and he helped NW get into the biz. Raise a toast to a brave man, gents.... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Thanks Jay, If your in this business it's a small group of pilots that do it regularly and we get to know each other. He will be missed by a bunch of other pilots. He worked his rear off crossing almost weekly. I am Currently On my way across this week shutdown for ice here in Ohio the aircraft T182 should be able to be tanked Thursday and have a Friday crossing to Santa Maria. Ditching is a ferry pilots worst nightmare but we understand it dose happen even to experienced pilots with hundreds of crossings. Last 12 Months, Fritz Schroder 02/2007 (SR20, Blown Engine Outside Narsarsuaq) Lori Love 08/2007 (Vanished Between Accra Ghana And Namibia) |
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Ferry Pilot Down
On Feb 12, 6:23*am, wrote:
On Feb 11, 5:34 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote: Just got off the phone with NWPilot, calling me from a wake (at Hooters) for a fellow ferry pilot who went down today in the North Atlantic, 50 miles short of Keflavik, Iceland. Here's the story, from Airliners.net: ************************************************** ************************************************** At 15:50 local time, contact was made with RKV ICG centre from a Cessna 310, arriving from Narsarsuaq, which had lost power in one of its engines, 60 miles off Keflavik. In an effort to pump fuel between tanks its feared both engines failed and the pilot had to rely on gliding the aircraft. At the time he was descending through 7000 ft heading towards Reykjavik. RKV ATC Centre initiated emergency status in KEF and the ICG Centre sent its Super Pumas, TF-GNA and TF-LIF out to the incident site. At 16:10 the Cessna 310 disappeared from radar, around 50 miles from Keflavik. A Challenger 604 from the Danish Air Force was sent straight to the scene of the incident and a full search was carried out from that point. TF-LIF arrived at the scene around 17:00. No sighting of the Cessna 310 had been made and no signal from the emergency transmitter was noticed. Three trawlers which were near the scene of the incident where called immediately into action and a full scale search was underway. A Cessna 172 aircraft was also involved in the search operation as well as various rescue boats from Slysavarnarfelagid Landsbjorg. ICGs own F27 TF-SYN was sent out as a surveillance aircraft to replace the efforts of the DAF CL604. A patrol vessel from the ICG was also sent out to help the search efforts. ************************************************** ************************************************** Pretty much a worst-case scenario. *High seas, ice cold water, gliding a dead stick C-310 into 40-foot swells. *NWPilot says he didn't start drinking until 3 hours after the crash -- survival time in the water is estimated at 2 hours, maximum, in a survival suit. The pilot's name was Jeff Hall, and he helped NW get into the biz. Raise a toast to a brave man, gents.... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Thanks Jay, If your in this business it's a small group of pilots that do it regularly and we get to know each other. He will be missed by a bunch of other pilots. He worked his rear off crossing almost weekly. I am Currently On my way across this week shutdown for ice here in Ohio the aircraft T182 should be able to be tanked Thursday and have a Friday crossing to Santa Maria. Ditching is a ferry pilots worst nightmare but we understand it dose happen even to experienced pilots with hundreds of crossings. Last 12 Months, Fritz Schroder 02/2007 (SR20, Blown Engine Outside Narsarsuaq) Lori Love 08/2007 (Vanished Between Accra Ghana And Namibia)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do ferry pilots universally carry 406 Mhz GPS PLBs? I know I would want one for sure. If the pilot who vanished in Africa had one, and a signal was not received, it could be (somewhat) reasonably assumed that she died on impact. --Dan |
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"Dan" wrote in message ... On Feb 12, 6:23 am, wrote: On Feb 11, 5:34 pm, "Jay Honeck" wrote: Just got off the phone with NWPilot, calling me from a wake (at Hooters) for a fellow ferry pilot who went down today in the North Atlantic, 50 miles short of Keflavik, Iceland. Here's the story, from Airliners.net: ************************************************** ************************************************** At 15:50 local time, contact was made with RKV ICG centre from a Cessna 310, arriving from Narsarsuaq, which had lost power in one of its engines, 60 miles off Keflavik. In an effort to pump fuel between tanks its feared both engines failed and the pilot had to rely on gliding the aircraft. At the time he was descending through 7000 ft heading towards Reykjavik. RKV ATC Centre initiated emergency status in KEF and the ICG Centre sent its Super Pumas, TF-GNA and TF-LIF out to the incident site. At 16:10 the Cessna 310 disappeared from radar, around 50 miles from Keflavik. A Challenger 604 from the Danish Air Force was sent straight to the scene of the incident and a full search was carried out from that point. TF-LIF arrived at the scene around 17:00. No sighting of the Cessna 310 had been made and no signal from the emergency transmitter was noticed. Three trawlers which were near the scene of the incident where called immediately into action and a full scale search was underway. A Cessna 172 aircraft was also involved in the search operation as well as various rescue boats from Slysavarnarfelagid Landsbjorg. ICGs own F27 TF-SYN was sent out as a surveillance aircraft to replace the efforts of the DAF CL604. A patrol vessel from the ICG was also sent out to help the search efforts. ************************************************** ************************************************** Pretty much a worst-case scenario. High seas, ice cold water, gliding a dead stick C-310 into 40-foot swells. NWPilot says he didn't start drinking until 3 hours after the crash -- survival time in the water is estimated at 2 hours, maximum, in a survival suit. The pilot's name was Jeff Hall, and he helped NW get into the biz. Raise a toast to a brave man, gents.... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Thanks Jay, If your in this business it's a small group of pilots that do it regularly and we get to know each other. He will be missed by a bunch of other pilots. He worked his rear off crossing almost weekly. I am Currently On my way across this week shutdown for ice here in Ohio the aircraft T182 should be able to be tanked Thursday and have a Friday crossing to Santa Maria. Ditching is a ferry pilots worst nightmare but we understand it dose happen even to experienced pilots with hundreds of crossings. Last 12 Months, Fritz Schroder 02/2007 (SR20, Blown Engine Outside Narsarsuaq) Lori Love 08/2007 (Vanished Between Accra Ghana And Namibia)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Do ferry pilots universally carry 406 Mhz GPS PLBs? I know I would want one for sure. If the pilot who vanished in Africa had one, and a signal was not received, it could be (somewhat) reasonably assumed that she died on impact. --Dan I'm still amazed they can't find Steve Fossett here in the USA. Amazing how big the world truly is at ground level. |
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Ferry Pilot Down
"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:mI6sj.29479$9j6.4199@attbi_s22: Just got off the phone with NWPilot, calling me from a wake (at Hooters) for a fellow ferry pilot who went down today in the North Atlantic, 50 miles short of Keflavik, Iceland. New low for you there Jay. Bertie |
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Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"Jay Honeck" wrote in news:mI6sj.29479$9j6.4199@attbi_s22: Just got off the phone with NWPilot, calling me from a wake (at Hooters) for a fellow ferry pilot who went down today in the North Atlantic, 50 miles short of Keflavik, Iceland. New low for you there Jay. Bertie Hi Bertie, I have watched your posts for quite a few years. WTF gives you the balls to bitch out Jay for posting that NWPilot mentioned to him, on a phone call, that one of his "compadres" went down on a ferry flight over the North Atlantic? NWPilot, and a very small group of pilots, perform a very vital service to the aviation community. I am not a pilot myself. I am a retired US Air Force enlisted communications puke who had job responsibilities that took me into the worlds of the "bus driver" and the "fighter jock". However, I do know a whole ****load of civilian pilots, of various qualification levels as well. In fact, I have a close family member who is a "four striper" on a major US airline. Because of this, I have a pretty good outlook on the military and civilian pilot communities. However, in the case of NWPilot and his "compadres", it takes a very special group of pilots to ferry "small" aircraft over the two big "ponds" off the east and west coasts of the North American continent. The North Atlantic, like the North Pacific, can be fatal to anyone who "screws the pooch". It appears, that in this case, a mechanical failure may have occurred and the airplane went down, taking the pilot with it. However, none of us in this NG knows the exact details of this accident and probably will never know. You may be a sim pilot, or a "pattern pilot" or a non-pilot who may have an interest in aviation. Before you start bitching out guys like Jay, pull your head out of your ass and understand how airplanes, and aviation, work. For the record, I have not been anywhere in the State of Iowa since May 1988. I have never been to Iowa City and have not stayed at Jay's establishment. He, and Mary, bust their asses off to run a great little business. It is great that they are both airplane owners and pilots. As I watch your posts, your stupidity is hilarious at the minimum, and criminal at the maximum. If you are a pilot, you exhibit a stupidity only exhibited by various US politicians. In this particular case, Jay was passing on what he was told on a phone call to the people who frequent this NG. Before you decide to bitch Jay (or anyone else for that matter) out do your ****ing homework!!! I have been lurking, and posting, in NGs since the mid 90s. You, and MX, are just as bad, if not worse, than the "MI-5 Guy". Do yourself a favor and get your **** together. You, and MX, will become more credible as a result. Later Rick |
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RL Anderson wrote in
: Bertie the Bunyip wrote: "Jay Honeck" wrote in news:mI6sj.29479$9j6.4199@attbi_s22: Just got off the phone with NWPilot, calling me from a wake (at Hooters) for a fellow ferry pilot who went down today in the North Atlantic, 50 miles short of Keflavik, Iceland. New low for you there Jay. Bertie Hi Bertie, I have watched your posts for quite a few years. WTF gives you the balls to bitch out Jay for posting that NWPilot mentioned to him, on a phone call, that one of his "compadres" went down on a ferry flight over the North Atlantic? NWPilot, and a very small group of pilots, perform a very vital service to the aviation community. I am not a pilot myself. I am a retired US Air Force enlisted communications puke who had job responsibilities that took me into the worlds of the "bus driver" and the "fighter jock". However, I do know a whole ****load of civilian pilots, of various qualification levels as well. In fact, I have a close family member who is a "four striper" on a major US airline. Because of this, I have a pretty good outlook on the military and civilian pilot communities. However, in the case of NWPilot and his "compadres", it takes a very special group of pilots to ferry "small" aircraft over the two big "ponds" off the east and west coasts of the North American continent. The North Atlantic, like the North Pacific, can be fatal to anyone who "screws the pooch". It appears, that in this case, a mechanical failure may have occurred and the airplane went down, taking the pilot with it. However, none of us in this NG knows the exact details of this accident and probably will never know. You may be a sim pilot, or a "pattern pilot" or a non-pilot who may have an interest in aviation. Before you start bitching out guys like Jay, pull your head out of your ass and understand how airplanes, and aviation, work. For the record, I have not been anywhere in the State of Iowa since May 1988. I have never been to Iowa City and have not stayed at Jay's establishment. He, and Mary, bust their asses off to run a great little business. It is great that they are both airplane owners and pilots. As I watch your posts, your stupidity is hilarious at the minimum, and criminal at the maximum. Happy to have entertained you then. If you are a pilot, you exhibit a stupidity only exhibited by various US politicians. In this particular case, Jay was passing on what he was told on a phone call to the people who frequent this NG. Before you decide to bitch Jay (or anyone else for that matter) out do your ****ing homework!!! I have been lurking, and posting, in NGs since the mid 90s. You, and MX, are just as bad, if not worse, than the "MI-5 Guy". Do yourself a favor and get your **** together. You, and MX, will become more credible as a result. Fantastic. You go right on ahead and fly like he tells you! Bertie |
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