Does China have a plan?

Given the USA's dependence on space based assets for communication, control
as well as surveillance and targeting not to mention what else we are not
aware of (black ops), it would seem that the Chinese have robust projects to
deny the USA space at a time of its choosing. Recent reports indicate they
(Chicoms) are hiding a major part their defense spending, it would appear
they have plan. Is it Taiwan or maybe "something" larger?


T3


http://www.space.com/news/china_dod_030801.html
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world...nse000306.html

"T3" wrote in
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Given the USA's dependence on space based assets for communication,
control as well as surveillance and targeting not to mention what else
we are not aware of (black ops), it would seem that the Chinese have
robust projects to deny the USA space at a time of its choosing.
Recent reports indicate they (Chicoms) are hiding a major part their
defense spending, it would appear they have plan. Is it Taiwan or
maybe "something" larger?



T3


http://www.space.com/news/china_dod_030801.html
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world...nse000306.html





Well,we know they want Taiwan,the Spratleys and Paracels,and might want a
nice oil source like Indonesia or the Phillipines.Not to mention a nice
security buffer against foreign interference with their plans. They may
have learned a bit from the Japanese expansion of the Pacific.

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Jim Yanik,NRA member
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"T3" wrote in
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Given the USA's dependence on space based assets for communication,
control as well as surveillance and targeting not to mention what else
we are not aware of (black ops), it would seem that the Chinese have
robust projects to deny the USA space at a time of its choosing.
Recent reports indicate they (Chicoms) are hiding a major part their
defense spending, it would appear they have plan. Is it Taiwan or
maybe "something" larger?



T3


http://www.space.com/news/china_dod_030801.html
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world...nse000306.html





Well,we know they want Taiwan,the Spratleys and Paracels,and might want a
nice oil source like Indonesia or the Phillipines.Not to mention a nice
security buffer against foreign interference with their plans. They may
have learned a bit from the Japanese expansion of the Pacific.

--
Jim Yanik,NRA member
remove null to contact me


Exactly, that's what scares me!! I have yet to see a counter from the west.
T3

On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 02:44:22 GMT, "T3" wrote:


"Jim Yanik" wrote in message
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"T3" wrote in
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Given the USA's dependence on space based assets for communication,
control as well as surveillance and targeting not to mention what else
we are not aware of (black ops), it would seem that the Chinese have
robust projects to deny the USA space at a time of its choosing.
Recent reports indicate they (Chicoms) are hiding a major part their
defense spending, it would appear they have plan. Is it Taiwan or
maybe "something" larger?

http://www.space.com/news/china_dod_030801.html
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/world...nse000306.html

Well,we know they want Taiwan,the Spratleys and Paracels,and might want a
nice oil source like Indonesia or the Phillipines.Not to mention a nice
security buffer against foreign interference with their plans. They may
have learned a bit from the Japanese expansion of the Pacific.

Exactly, that's what scares me!! I have yet to see a counter from the west.

A counter to what? The PLAN isn't suddenly going to emerge as a blue
water navy carrying out the kind of ops you proposed without a decade
of warning (at least) - you can't hide a large warship program from
satellites, and you certainly can't hide amphibious ops.

Do they have a plan? Almost certainly. Do we need to panic now?
absolutely not. Currently they can't seriously challenge the USN -
hell the RN could take on the PLAN on and have a good chance of a win
if it was more than 200nm from land to eliminate a few thousand of
their short range fighters.

"Peter Kemp" wrote in message
news | On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 02:44:22 GMT, "T3" wrote:
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| Do they have a plan? Almost certainly. Do we need to panic now?
| absolutely not. Currently they can't seriously challenge the USN -
| hell the RN could take on the PLAN on and have a good chance of a win
| if it was more than 200nm from land to eliminate a few thousand of
| their short range fighters.
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You could even do it inshore if the fleet was protected by EP-3s on CAP



Cheers

Dave Kearton

"Dave Kearton" wrote in message ...
"Peter Kemp" wrote in message
news | On Fri, 08 Aug 2003 02:44:22 GMT, "T3" wrote:
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| Do they have a plan? Almost certainly. Do we need to panic now?
| absolutely not. Currently they can't seriously challenge the USN -
| hell the RN could take on the PLAN on and have a good chance of a win
| if it was more than 200nm from land to eliminate a few thousand of
| their short range fighters.
|


You could even do it inshore if the fleet was protected by EP-3s on CAP



Cheers

Dave Kearton
This topic should be merged with other topic on China's new DDG
PLAN certainly cannot be understand i doubt RN can hold up against
PLAN near chinese mainland considering the amount of missile boats
and minelayers they have.
But that said PLAN can do very little other be defensive force but
they spending a lot of money to rectify that. They are building 3 new
destroyers order 2 sovremenny for $1.4 billion dollars and 8 Kilo
submarines for 2.4 billion. So definetly throwing a lot of money at
improving their navy. Also there is massive rivalry going on in E Asia
between India, china, S korea and Japan, while current Japan has the
best navy in asia only time will tell which country will come out a
ahead in the near future.