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Old September 22nd 04, 02:27 AM
Dudley Henriques
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"OXMORON1" wrote in message
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Dudley commented:
I'm not an expert on these matters but I don't believe there is a
statute of limitations on such a charge.


For the legal people...Can a President pardon himself? Ford got Nixon
off the
hook, but could Nixon have pardoned himself before he resigned? Could
Kerry
pardon himself before anything came out?

Rick


I don't think he could get away with that. The country would go nuts!
But the harm to the country would be deep and permanent if a traitor was
elected to the Presidency and afterward had to be removed from office.
It would split the country wide open. The wounds would never heal.
If this guy's records have to be seen; they'll have to be seen BEFORE
the election, and if those records contain what many think they contain.
Kerry will fight like hell to keep them secret by not signing that damn
release form.
The Swifties could do it if they tried hard enough in public, but that's
the only way I can think of to force that issue.
Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired


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Old September 22nd 04, 03:20 AM
Bob Coe
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"Dudley Henriques" wrote

I've never in my lifetime seen the likes of what is happening in this election campaign.
As an American, I'm deeply troubled by what I'm seeing.


I don't really worry about such things, because I know there is a
Lee Oswald out there who is an equalizer.

Jonathan Alter says "Shrum's grand plan wasn't complicated. He
figured that with most voters believing the country is on the "wrong
track," all that Kerry had to do was establish his credibility as a
potential commander in chief and he would win-hence the "bio"
convention.

No need to respond directly to Bush ads sliming him for wanting to
cut the same weapons systems that Bush's father cut. No need to
explain how the Iraq war had been botched. No need to discredit
Bush at all, because he was already thoroughly discredited."

While the rest of the piece is crap, he has it right about Shrum, and
why Kerry lost the election. Dan Rather is a day late and a dollar
short. Kerry is no Commander in Chief material, and even the
mentally retarded can understand that.


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Old September 22nd 04, 03:37 AM
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"OXMORON1" wrote in message
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IBM wrote:

Now that would be interesting.
Ought not simple arithmetic be able to determine whether or not his

commitment was up at the time in question?

Not all that simple, unless he had resigned his commission or had recelved
his
discharge he was still a reserve officer.
So you need to see the records to find out if either had happened.


Actually, his own website is a bit shady on this topic. The service timeline
shows that he requested releases from active duty on 1 March 1970 and was
released from *active* duty the following month, and that is where it ends
( http://www.johnkerry.com/about/john_..._timeline.html ), with no
mention of subsequent reserve service. But in the "records" section of the
site it shows that his request for discharge from the USNR was not accepted
and approved until1978 (
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilse...al_Reserve.pdf )
.. So up front they leave one with the impression he was out free-and-clear
in 1970, but that most assuredly was not the case. There is no question that
he was still a USNR officer when he was pulling his VVAW/Winter Soldier
Investigation stunts in 1971.

Brooks


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Old September 22nd 04, 03:46 AM
Bob
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 18:45:54 -0700, Willcox
wrote:

In article . net,
Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"RalphNader 2004" wrote in message
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Why does Kerry continue to hide his military records and refuse to sign a
SF 180?

Because there's something in those records that would diminish his chances
of becoming president if it became known.


1977 - Jimmy Carter signs widesweeping pardon for "violations of the
Military Selective Service Act alleged to have occurred between August
4, 1964 and March 28, 1973".
http://www.archives.gov/federal_regi...cutive_order/1
1967.html

1978 - John Kerry flinally gets an honorable discharge:
http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/j...isnavresrv.pdf


No need to go to findlaw. It is right there on the Kerry site along
with the more official letter...
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilse...al_Reserve.pdf
http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilse...om_Reserve.pdf

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Old September 22nd 04, 05:33 AM
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In article ,
Mitchell Holman wrote:

So can we assume that you finally admit that the CBS memos were bogus?

One step at a time...
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Old September 22nd 04, 05:38 AM
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"Bob" wrote

No need to go to findlaw. It is right there on the Kerry site along
with the more official letter...

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilse...al_Reserve.pdf

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilse...om_Reserve.pdf


And here are a couple of articles on the subject in question

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/m...20040625.shtml
http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/st....php?page=AWOL

Pete


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Old September 22nd 04, 01:25 PM
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
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I am actually in awe of what is happening in this campaign. It's totally
unbelievable to me that this will be allowed ultimately to stand. This
last deal with CBS is nothing short of a direct attempt to overthrow the
government of the United States by influencing a national election.

....

Well Dudley,

Take a deep breath. Then tell yourself "it's only an election."

Though it's fun to watch you turn into a paranoid pretzel about the
forthcoming civil war and the "attempt to overthrow the government of
the United States" by politicing.

I would guess that to prevent that you might wish the election cancelled.

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Old September 22nd 04, 02:30 PM
Dudley Henriques
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"Bill Jameson" wrote in message
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
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I am actually in awe of what is happening in this campaign. It's
totally unbelievable to me that this will be allowed ultimately to
stand. This last deal with CBS is nothing short of a direct attempt
to overthrow the government of the United States by influencing a
national election.

...

Well Dudley,

Take a deep breath. Then tell yourself "it's only an election."

Though it's fun to watch you turn into a paranoid pretzel about the
forthcoming civil war and the "attempt to overthrow the government of
the United States" by politicing.

I would guess that to prevent that you might wish the election
cancelled.


You guessed wrong.........about me, and how you read my post.

Dudley Henriques
International Fighter Pilots Fellowship
Flight Instructor/Aerobatics/Retired






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Old September 24th 04, 08:36 PM
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"ibm" wrote in message
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who fought in Vietnam. The difference between kerry and bush is that
kerry "earned" 3 purple hearts and got ejected with an honorable


Trotskerry manufactured at least two of the Purple Hearts.


Methinks that's why "earned" is in quotes.


 




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