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On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:41:56 +0200, T182T wrote:
A First-Class medical is a goal all of us can establish early, but none can maintain indefinitely, so why not keep it as long as we can? I've followed this as well, and I'm healthy enough that I've no concerns about it. However, some of the older pilots I know have warned me against this practice. The concern is apparently that the more in-depth examination might expose something that would be disqualifying - once known - even for a 3rd class medical. I've mixed feelings. On one hand, I'd hate to lose my medical by "over testing". On the other hand, I'd hate to be caught aware of a medical problem that could have been detected earlier. - Andrew |
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Andrew Gideon wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:41:56 +0200, T182T wrote: A First-Class medical is a goal all of us can establish early, but none can maintain indefinitely, so why not keep it as long as we can? I've followed this as well, and I'm healthy enough that I've no concerns about it. However, some of the older pilots I know have warned me against this practice. The concern is apparently that the more in-depth examination might expose something that would be disqualifying - once known - even for a 3rd class medical. I've mixed feelings. On one hand, I'd hate to lose my medical by "over testing". On the other hand, I'd hate to be caught aware of a medical problem that could have been detected earlier. - Andrew If you get a real physical from your private physician and he/she finds something, you have the chance of getting it under control to FAA standards by the time your next FAA physical comes around. If it is found during your FAA physical, you are screwed. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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Mike Adams wrote:
wrote: If you get a real physical from your private physician and he/she finds something, you have the chance of getting it under control to FAA standards by the time your next FAA physical comes around. If it is found during your FAA physical, you are screwed. You may be screwed either way. If you have your own physical and it finds something, you're obligated to report it on the FAA medical application form. Mike Yes, there is always the possibility that you will develop something that will cause you to fail an FAA physical. The point is if your personal physician finds it, you at least have a chance to get it under control before you take a FAA physical and get yourself denied. And if you are denied, you can forget about even flying LSA. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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"Mike Adams" wrote in message .. . If you have your own physical and it finds something, you're obligated to report it on the FAA medical application form. This is a classic case of unintended consequences from a perfectly reasonable-sounding governmental regulation. The requirement for medical certification may actually make pilots, especially Commercial pilots, LESS healthy because any visit to their private physician has the potential to ground them and forever remove their livelihood. It is hard to think of any other group of workers with that type of potential bombshell hanging over their head. Vaughn |
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On Jul 17, 9:17*am, "vaughn" wrote:
"Mike Adams" wrote in message .. . If you have your own physical and it finds *something, you're obligated to report it on the FAA medical application form. This is a classic case of unintended consequences from a perfectly reasonable-sounding governmental regulation. *The requirement for medical certification may actually make pilots, especially Commercial pilots, LESS healthy because any visit to their private physician has the potential to ground them and forever remove their livelihood. *It is hard to think of any other group of workers with that type of potential bombshell hanging over their head. Vaughn Interesting take, and may have some truth, but in that the government is the certifying authority there is an obligation on its part to unleash on the rest of us people capable of performing the tasks they are certified as capable. The other weeding out process, the BFI, probably helps catch some of the medical misses. That leads to an interesting question: has there been any work that demonstrates the BFI has led to a safer universe of pilots? A related question might focus on some kind of proficiency test for drivers -- at least a test for reflexes! |
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a writes:
Interesting take, and may have some truth, but in that the government is the certifying authority there is an obligation on its part to unleash on the rest of us people capable of performing the tasks they are certified as capable. Current medical standards are excessively strict, more suited to 1960s astronauts than to modern-day pilots. In reality, pilot incapacitation for medical reasons is virtually unknown. And before you say that's because the sick pilots are weeded out by strict medicals, consider the fact that medical incapacitation is also virtually unknown among automobile drivers. It's pretty unusual for someone to become incapacitated at the wheel of an automobile, even among drivers who are in questionable health. |
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On Jul 17, 9:17*am, "vaughn" wrote:
"Mike Adams" wrote in message .. . If you have your own physical and it finds *something, you're obligated to report it on the FAA medical application form. This is a classic case of unintended consequences from a perfectly reasonable-sounding governmental regulation. *The requirement for medical certification may actually make pilots, especially Commercial pilots, LESS healthy because any visit to their private physician has the potential to ground them and forever remove their livelihood. *It is hard to think of any other group of workers with that type of potential bombshell hanging over their head. Vaughn I had a conversation about a related subject yesterday. This had to do with recruiting healthy subjects in the 40 to 60 year old range for a clinical trial. The principal investigator mentioned that about 1 in 8 of those who self reported themselves as 'healthy' failed to meet the screening criteria and were referred to their primary care physician or a cardiologist. This 'unintended experiment' more or less led me to conclude most of us with class 2 or 3 physicals may only see an MD for a regular check up as part of of flight physical, and that is probably the first time many of us learn of an underlying problem. The obvious exception of course would be eye examinations. Some health problems are preventable -- there are better reasons than a desire to fly as PIC to stay fit, but no matter what the reason, just do it! (Full disclosure, I own Nike stock.) I do agree some small number when learning of a problem from someone other than a flight surgeon will try to hide it. If the uncovered disease is cardio pulmonary messing around in airplanes around 10,000 feet without supplementary O2 is not smart and it would be a good idea for a prudent pilot to know that. For what it's worth I have no such problems, but have been persuaded O2 and a bottle of 5 Hour Energy is a good way to stay safe at 10,000 feet at night. (Hey guys, Five Hour Energy has a lot less fluid than a thermos of high octane coffee, and that makes the need for urinating into a ziplock bag on a long XC less likely -- more than you wanted to know, huh?). |
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On Jul 18, 8:31*am, a wrote:
This 'unintended experiment' more or less led me to conclude most of us with class 2 or 3 physicals may only see an MD for a regular check up as part of of flight physical, and that is probably the first time many of us learn of an underlying problem. Yep, describes me to the tee. 2 very serious conditions for me was discovered during my medical. One as described in my prior post extreme hypertension and another was pre-melanoma freckle on my back that look like a freckle to me. Both considered silent killers since I had no "symptoms" to complain about. So, this pilot doesn't complain about the nuances of the medical process. Of course I now see a doctor once a year for my BP medication renewal but even then it's less then an FAA medical review. |
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