can I get paid?

Hello All,

I know that this topic has been discussed several times and that the answers
are pretty common. I just want to ensure in my particular idea if I
understand the facts.

For my civilian employment I am a computer compliance specialist. There are
occasions that I need to go to our corporate office a few states away and
others go too. Typically, if there are enough going they charter a King Air
to take us. However, it is more likely than not that not enough go to get a
Charter. If I were to fly with a PP-ASEL, could I be reimbursed for the
rental cost? Further, if I were to take my own airplane, could I recover the
fuel cost?

I think that I could do either of the above. I am not for hire to be a
pilot. Regardless if I use a plane or not, I am still going.

What are your opinions again?

This would be so much easier if it were a helicopter because I have a
commercial and an IR in them.

Thanks,
Frederick Wilson

King Air is a twin, you got PP ASEL.... good luck flying pic. Youd have to
have a MEI with you to fly that thing.
"Frederick Wilson" wrote in message
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Hello All,

I know that this topic has been discussed several times and that the
answers
are pretty common. I just want to ensure in my particular idea if I
understand the facts.

For my civilian employment I am a computer compliance specialist. There
are
occasions that I need to go to our corporate office a few states away and
others go too. Typically, if there are enough going they charter a King
Air
to take us. However, it is more likely than not that not enough go to get
a
Charter. If I were to fly with a PP-ASEL, could I be reimbursed for the
rental cost? Further, if I were to take my own airplane, could I recover
the
fuel cost?

I think that I could do either of the above. I am not for hire to be a
pilot. Regardless if I use a plane or not, I am still going.

What are your opinions again?

This would be so much easier if it were a helicopter because I have a
commercial and an IR in them.

Thanks,
Frederick Wilson

Tim you idiot.. re read the post.. he said when there is enough people going
the COMPANY CHARTERS A KING AIR..

his question is.. when it's just him.. can he legally get the company to
reimburse his travel (rental) costs.. for the SEL

what a dolt..

BT

"Timothy Oneal" wrote in message
...
King Air is a twin, you got PP ASEL.... good luck flying pic. Youd have
to
have a MEI with you to fly that thing.
"Frederick Wilson" wrote in message
news:hcBrb.156752$Tr4.421184@attbi_s03...
Hello All,

I know that this topic has been discussed several times and that the
answers
are pretty common. I just want to ensure in my particular idea if I
understand the facts.

For my civilian employment I am a computer compliance specialist. There
are
occasions that I need to go to our corporate office a few states away
and
others go too. Typically, if there are enough going they charter a King
Air
to take us. However, it is more likely than not that not enough go to
get
a
Charter. If I were to fly with a PP-ASEL, could I be reimbursed for the
rental cost? Further, if I were to take my own airplane, could I recover
the
fuel cost?

I think that I could do either of the above. I am not for hire to be a
pilot. Regardless if I use a plane or not, I am still going.

What are your opinions again?

This would be so much easier if it were a helicopter because I have a
commercial and an IR in them.

Thanks,
Frederick Wilson

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"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:YxBrb.14253$Zb7.3400@fed1read01...
Tim you idiot.. re read the post.. he said when there is enough people
going
the COMPANY CHARTERS A KING AIR..

his question is.. when it's just him.. can he legally get the company to
reimburse his travel (rental) costs.. for the SEL

what a dolt..

BT

"Timothy Oneal" wrote in message
...
King Air is a twin, you got PP ASEL.... good luck flying pic. Youd
have
to
have a MEI with you to fly that thing.
"Frederick Wilson" wrote in message
news:hcBrb.156752$Tr4.421184@attbi_s03...
Hello All,

I know that this topic has been discussed several times and that the
answers
are pretty common. I just want to ensure in my particular idea if I
understand the facts.

For my civilian employment I am a computer compliance specialist.
There
are
occasions that I need to go to our corporate office a few states away
and
others go too. Typically, if there are enough going they charter a
King
Air
to take us. However, it is more likely than not that not enough go to
get
a
Charter. If I were to fly with a PP-ASEL, could I be reimbursed for
the
rental cost? Further, if I were to take my own airplane, could I
recover
the
fuel cost?

I think that I could do either of the above. I am not for hire to be a
pilot. Regardless if I use a plane or not, I am still going.

What are your opinions again?

This would be so much easier if it were a helicopter because I have a
commercial and an IR in them.

Thanks,
Frederick Wilson

Fred.. the big answer would depend on your company's travel reimbursement
policy.. xx cents per mile for personal auto or rental car, xxx cents per
mile for personal air travel. Many company's do not want their people flying
:"on company business" unless they are commercial rated and specifically
covered/approved by their company.

What you need to be careful of, is the.. "I'm going anyway.. but Chuck in
Finance needs to go so there is an empty seat.".. then you or chuck could be
violating the company policy and in the event of an accident.. yours and
Chucks heirs get nothing.

as far as FARs.. AOPA would have the best answer, but as long as it's "just
you", you are not on company time (payroll, not flying for hire) when your
traveling, and you get reimbursed at xxx cents per mile for travel.. as long
as that does not exceed the cost of the rental you should be ok.

But as with anything else in aviation.. there are many opinions.. and you
can call the local Flight Standards Office.. talk to 3 different people and
get 4 different answers..

BT
"Frederick Wilson" wrote in message
news:hcBrb.156752$Tr4.421184@attbi_s03...
Hello All,

I know that this topic has been discussed several times and that the
answers
are pretty common. I just want to ensure in my particular idea if I
understand the facts.

For my civilian employment I am a computer compliance specialist. There
are
occasions that I need to go to our corporate office a few states away and
others go too. Typically, if there are enough going they charter a King
Air
to take us. However, it is more likely than not that not enough go to get
a
Charter. If I were to fly with a PP-ASEL, could I be reimbursed for the
rental cost? Further, if I were to take my own airplane, could I recover
the
fuel cost?

I think that I could do either of the above. I am not for hire to be a
pilot. Regardless if I use a plane or not, I am still going.

What are your opinions again?

This would be so much easier if it were a helicopter because I have a
commercial and an IR in them.

Thanks,
Frederick Wilson

"BTIZ" wrote in message news:qDBrb.14279$Zb7.14106@fed1read01...

You're corporate policy and insurance liability are well taken. Remember if you
are travelling on business the company is liable and many are a bit reticent to
expose that risk.

as far as FARs.. AOPA would have the best answer, but as long as it's "just
you", you are not on company time (payroll, not flying for hire)

Nothing keeps you from being on the company time nor from carrying passengers.
The operative words are "incidental to business" and "not carrying passengers or
property for hire." If me and my office mate need to head up to Philly for a meeting,
we can both hop in the Navion and go and I can get my gas money, landing fees,
etc... reimbursed.

when your
traveling, and you get reimbursed at xxx cents per mile for travel.. as long
as that does not exceed the cost of the rental you should be ok.

You can get reimbursed for the full cost (direct operating expenses or rental
as appropriate).

Ron... notice key words.. "do not exceed" the cost of the rental...

BT


when your
traveling, and you get reimbursed at xxx cents per mile for travel.. as
long
as that does not exceed the cost of the rental you should be ok.

You can get reimbursed for the full cost (direct operating expenses or
rental
as appropriate).

"BTIZ" wrote in message news:i0Rrb.20875$Zb7.18812@fed1read01...
Ron... notice key words.. "do not exceed" the cost of the rental...

I was addressing the xxx cents per mile part of your statement.
It's immaterial as far as the FAA is concerned. My employer can
pay me the actual costs regardless of any particular milage rate.

true.. I'm so used to filing "gov't/military" travel expenses where the
"reimbursement" is based on xx cents per mile (higher rate/mile for air),
not to exceed the cost of "commercial" transportation..

private companies may set their own travel expense limits..

BT

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...

"BTIZ" wrote in message
news:i0Rrb.20875$Zb7.18812@fed1read01...
Ron... notice key words.. "do not exceed" the cost of the rental...

I was addressing the xxx cents per mile part of your statement.
It's immaterial as far as the FAA is concerned. My employer can
pay me the actual costs regardless of any particular milage rate.

Wrong subject line...you mean "Can I get reimbursed?" You obviously cannot
get paid for flying.

Bob Gardner

"Frederick Wilson" wrote in message
news:hcBrb.156752$Tr4.421184@attbi_s03...
Hello All,

I know that this topic has been discussed several times and that the
answers
are pretty common. I just want to ensure in my particular idea if I
understand the facts.

For my civilian employment I am a computer compliance specialist. There
are
occasions that I need to go to our corporate office a few states away and
others go too. Typically, if there are enough going they charter a King
Air
to take us. However, it is more likely than not that not enough go to get
a
Charter. If I were to fly with a PP-ASEL, could I be reimbursed for the
rental cost? Further, if I were to take my own airplane, could I recover
the
fuel cost?

I think that I could do either of the above. I am not for hire to be a
pilot. Regardless if I use a plane or not, I am still going.

What are your opinions again?

This would be so much easier if it were a helicopter because I have a
commercial and an IR in them.

Thanks,
Frederick Wilson