zooms SnF mini rant

"DABEAR" wrote in message
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These are the photos at Air Disaster.Com, a reference for Press
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Air Disasters is nothing more than place where people can go to see planes
crash. It is NOT a reference site for the press.

DABEAR wrote:

Apparently Jim did, because there was no fireball as I recall. The
photos should be on the web to refresh my memory. The other
information is verifiable, true or false.

A very interesting story...worth looking into, to be sure.

Bear, I understand where you are and what you're doing. I've been
there myself. Please take it from an old Zoom warrier -

So what?

It doesn't matter how many times we prove beyond all doubt that he lies
in print, about substantial and important issues. About himself,
companies he's pushing or companies he's trying to destroy. We've
proven it so many times we refer to incidents like those in a kind of
shorthand - like where's his son, when did he fly in Ethiopia, what
about the supersonic flight to the funeral, the number of planes he's
flown, injuries at Sun n Fun, etc. The people that have been doing
this for 10 or 15 years know what we're refering to and most of the
details, because they've been so thoroughly discussed.

None of it matters. You can't stop him from publishing, especiallly
now that he no longer has a printing and mailing bill.

Even when it's widely known that he runs advertising that hasn't been
ordered, bills for it, then sues when the bill isn't paid, good people
get sucked into advertising with him initially. Even though it's well
known what Zoom does to people after they quit (and how frequently they
don't get paid) good people like Kevin OBrien and Tim Kern get sucked
into working for him.

It doesn't matter if we prove he claimed he went to Desert Storm as a
reporter for Time Magazine. Or that he claimed the Mini-500 was a well
engineered, well manufactured aicraft before he led the campaing to
destroy it. Or that he was partners with Don Jones, who he later
described as a drug dealer that tried to kill cops. Or that he's
banned by Sun n Fun after years of misbehavior there, including
stiffing the Boys and Girls club for the food they provided for his
party.

None of that matters.

The problem is it doesn't cost much to be a malcontent with a website.
In the extreme case, you could be homeless and on the street, host on
blogspot and maintain one from public library. And there's no law in
America that makes it illegal to be a loonball that's destroying
aviation from the inside, driving good people away.

If you have an entirely new angle, I applaud you. If you are just mad
as hell at him, and are determined that the truth will out, I
understand. But it's been tried before.

Richard Riley wrote:
DABEAR wrote:

Apparently Jim did, because there was no fireball as I recall. The
photos should be on the web to refresh my memory. The other
information is verifiable, true or false.

A very interesting story...worth looking into, to be sure.

Bear, I understand where you are and what you're doing. I've been
there myself. Please take it from an old Zoom warrier -

So what?

It doesn't matter how many times we prove beyond all doubt that he lies
in print, about substantial and important issues. About himself,
companies he's pushing or companies he's trying to destroy. We've
proven it so many times we refer to incidents like those in a kind of
shorthand - like where's his son, when did he fly in Ethiopia, what
about the supersonic flight to the funeral, the number of planes he's
flown, injuries at Sun n Fun, etc. The people that have been doing
this for 10 or 15 years know what we're refering to and most of the
details, because they've been so thoroughly discussed.

None of it matters. You can't stop him from publishing, especiallly
now that he no longer has a printing and mailing bill.

Even when it's widely known that he runs advertising that hasn't been
ordered, bills for it, then sues when the bill isn't paid, good people
get sucked into advertising with him initially. Even though it's well
known what Zoom does to people after they quit (and how frequently they
don't get paid) good people like Kevin OBrien and Tim Kern get sucked
into working for him.

It doesn't matter if we prove he claimed he went to Desert Storm as a
reporter for Time Magazine. Or that he claimed the Mini-500 was a well
engineered, well manufactured aicraft before he led the campaing to
destroy it. Or that he was partners with Don Jones, who he later
described as a drug dealer that tried to kill cops. Or that he's
banned by Sun n Fun after years of misbehavior there, including
stiffing the Boys and Girls club for the food they provided for his
party.

None of that matters.

The problem is it doesn't cost much to be a malcontent with a website.
In the extreme case, you could be homeless and on the street, host on
blogspot and maintain one from public library. And there's no law in
America that makes it illegal to be a loonball that's destroying
aviation from the inside, driving good people away.

If you have an entirely new angle, I applaud you. If you are just mad
as hell at him, and are determined that the truth will out, I
understand. But it's been tried before.


This where yawn comes in and tells us how wrong everyone is, that he
has proof he doesn't have to provide, spews innuendo etc.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Dan wrote:

This where yawn comes in and tells us how wrong everyone is, that he
has proof he doesn't have to provide, spews innuendo etc.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Well, yes, but so what? So he's a contrarian. If you post that
Elizabeth is the Queen of England he'll answer with a long post about
how the Stewarts should still be on the throne. Yawn, again.

Light GA is, at it's best, barely profitable. Most people in the
industry are in it for the love, not for the money. Zoom takes what
could be a joyous endeavor and squeezes everything good from it. He is
to aviation what a rapist is to sex.

I'll respond to both of the Riley posts and the one from Dan in this
message:

Much of what you guys have fought has not been in the upper levels of
Federal Court dealing with Journalism, Civil Rights Violations,
Racketeering, and most importantly, over 40 counts of Federal Perjury
committed on or about October 17, 2005, in shutting down 56 of my
websites. Until I inadvertantly came across this USENET group and the
websites chronicling Campbell's past behavior, I had a difficult case
before me. Now, this guy's a slam dunk. The more info I get about
him, the easier it will be for the feds to take him down.

That Racketeering has already been charged against him, though the case
ended with the tragic death of the courageous Attorney involved,
supports my cases of Racketeering against him even though the case
apparently never made it to decision. The man's Modus Operandi and his
history are everything. This guy is like a wigged out boomerang that
you throw and comes back to try and kill you. That's his history. He
keeps repeating his crimes and his crimes get worse every five years or
so.

There are crimes that he commits that you claim he cannot be punished
for. On that, you're wrong.

Also, there is a greater issue...not just the crimes you know that he
has committed, but those crimes you don't know he has committed, such
as in terms of fraud, "Undisclosed Conflict of Interest." The Federal
Perjury directed against me, which is provable hands down, is an
entirely new charge...something you mentioned, btw...if I had something
"new." Indeed I do. Conspiracy is a new charge, particularly
considering his Racketeering and his association with other known and
alleged criminals, the latter of which can be proven...and what's
coming up is the first try in that regard. Aiding and abetting the
other conspirators in their crimes. Terrorism, which is precisely what
he conducted against my server in getting me shut down for ten days,
filing a libelous DMCA complaint in which he accused me of everything
you folks have accused him of. Literally, he's taken your charges and
directed them against me and proclaimed himself a lamb.

You folks have so much data that can take this clown down, considering
his latest acts, that it isn't funny. Add them all together and the
charges, not to mention the people making the charges, have strength in
numbers in terms of Class Action (100 or more) and/or Group Action
(Less Than 100) lawsuits.

You've had the power all along to take him down, but you're one, two,
three individuals going after him at a time, and the largest group
apparently the RAH group, but in a defensive stance to the best of my
knowledge.

This guy is a habitual criminal on top of everything else. Does not
want to mend his ways and keeps getting worse. That's a new direction
to focus on.

Yes, you're frustrated with the way the Justice System seems to let him
slide. The larger the group, the greater the impact on the Courts as
to this ONE individual's misconduct.

As for those great guys that are "snookered" into working for him,
O'Brien indicated here at USENET that he was ashamed of his publication
and what Campbell did. Did O'Brien quit?

His people know what he's doing and do nothing to stop him. To me,
that means they're getting some hefty pay and perks causing them to be
corrupted and do nothing or lose their own angle in the industry. That
hurts people worse than what Jim does, in my opinion.

The man needs stopped. Any information I can get to put towards that
purpose is appreciated:

Mark S. "Bear" Daniels
5606 Calhoun Avenue # 5
Van Nuys, CA 91401 USA

It's that simple. If you haven't thrown your hands up in regards to
ending this guy's misconduct, send your materials there or point to
where I can find them online. I'm going into Court against him
shortly, but he's small fish to fry. Just the same, he needs fried
because then I can take his misconduct and direct it against his
co-conspirators, who are equally responsible for him along with the
government.

As for the Cerritos mid-air, if it's the same Jim Campbell ~ as I
highly suspect it is ~ what he did trying to draw attention to himself,
is downright sick and goulish beyond that. My fellow veterans have a
fit when we get these fakes who claim to have been soldiers serving in
some hot combat situation, and were never there. We even have soldiers
claiming the same thing, when they were assigned many miles away and
were never in the action described.

What Campbell has done, if this allegation proves true, is far worse
than any of the above mentioned crimes committed against the veterans
of WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Grenada, Beirut, Desert Storm, Operation Iraqi
Freedom and Afghanistan, by the fakes.

Campbell tried to gain fame and notariety ~ even profit ~ on the deaths
of innocents...64 in the air, 15 on the ground, if that charge is true.

He needs to be stopped.

As for "yawn" spewing innuendo, not having to provide proof, etc. ~ all
well and good in public ~ but far different in a Court of Law
investigating him for fraud. Fraud is one of the issues that forces
him to put up or shut up. Perjury convictions can shut his mouth for
good and even better, on a Federal Perjury charge ~ and remember that
I'm alleging over 40 with documentation to back that up ~ up to five
years in prison and astronomical fines.

I can essentially bury him in his own feces with what I've got...but
since he keeps coming back, I think multiple layers of reinforced
concrete (prison) on his figurative "grave" are recommended.

You have my address, all. It's published at my websites and I could
care less about who writes me there, good or bad intent, I have no
fear.

You make the decision...if you info on this clown, send it to me, let
me waste my time dealing with him, if I so choose. Sit in the
grandstands and watch the fight.

He ain't going to last long. No coward does, and the stories about his
cowardice from people with character are more legendary than the
stories this coward tells about himself.

His information, as allegedly provided to Time Magazine, could have led
investigators on a wild goose chase had it not been for 1) the fact it
was a known mid-air and 2) the photos showing the DC-9 was not a
fireball.

Could have left a lot of things open for a number of surviving families
of those onboard both aircraft that would have delayed closure,
possibly, indefinitely.

Somewhere, a ghoul by the name of "Jim Campbell" knows full-well, what
he did. He may as well have gone to the crash site and robbed the
dead. Whoever that "Jim Campbell" is, tried to profit off the dying
and the dead, both.

And that's just one reason why Journalists don't allow other
Journalists to lie. Another is the fact that his lies hurt others,
particularly the living.

Campbell made himself a part of my larger investigations all by himself
via the dirty deal he gave a group of men with just grievances, in
selling them out to benefit from greedy deals he made with Houghton at
Reno and Diamandis in RRL and X-Prize.

I'm not stopping until he's convicted and put away...for the remainder
of his life, if necessary.

This is a very serious matter about a very serious criminal, and
criminals more serious in their misconduct than just he. Doing the
expedient thing won't bring them to justice, nor make my life better by
dropping the ball and saying, "Oh well." Beyond that, I have a sworn
oath.

And beyond those facts, folks, let's face it: this is a hell of an
interesting case I'm pursuing. It's too damned interesting to drop.

Air Disaster.Com has been definitely utilized by a number of mainstream
and major press outlets, as it has advertised. It provides historic
information in Almanac form that is reference for Journalists who in
pursuit of a current accident, must refer back to related accidents and
facts surrounding the same or connecting the two.

I'm afraid that you are upset and expressing concern about the
disturbing pictures ~ and who would blame you ~ as opposed to the fact
that I as a Journalist, and others, research this site and others like
it when writing about aircraft accidents, disaster, prevention, design,
engineering, trends, etc. In our work, pictures don't always tell
everything, the written facts, first hand observations, second hand
observations, third hand observations, often tell more.

Indeed we Press DO use Air Disaster.Com and the site is excellent for
reference and leads. I view it as an all-encompassing hub for
information that I can go to immediately for facts, as opposed to
spending hours, if not days, pursuing searches and deep searches for
similar information. Any searching I do after Air Disaster.Com, is
usually streamlined and done quickly as a result. Errant leads
eliminated in pursuit of essential facts. A story presented as an end
result for timely reading by the public.

In article .com, DABEAR
says...

I'll respond to both of the Riley posts and the one from Dan in this
message:

Much of what you guys have fought has not been in the upper levels of
Federal Court dealing with Journalism, Civil Rights Violations,
Racketeering, and most importantly, over 40 counts of Federal Perjury
committed on or about October 17, 2005, in shutting down 56 of my
websites. Until I inadvertantly came across this USENET group and the
websites chronicling Campbell's past behavior, I had a difficult case
before me. Now, this guy's a slam dunk. The more info I get about
him, the easier it will be for the feds to take him down.

I hope your right and so do a lot of other people who have been zoomed.



That Racketeering has already been charged against him, though the case
ended with the tragic death of the courageous Attorney involved,
supports my cases of Racketeering against him even though the case
apparently never made it to decision. The man's Modus Operandi and his
history are everything. This guy is like a wigged out boomerang that
you throw and comes back to try and kill you. That's his history. He
keeps repeating his crimes and his crimes get worse every five years or
so.


True enough and he's beome clever enough not to get into any discourse in
public.



There are crimes that he commits that you claim he cannot be punished
for. On that, you're wrong.


Again, I hope your right but after 14 years of thinking he can't keep getting
away with it ...but he does.He lays low for a while, gets a new group of zoomies
following him and keeps doing what he's been doing.

Terrorism, which is precisely what
he conducted against my server in getting me shut down for ten days,
filing a libelous DMCA complaint in which he accused me of everything
you folks have accused him of. Literally, he's taken your charges and
directed them against me and proclaimed himself a lamb.


He's been doing that for a long time and getting away with it. I hope sooner or
later he gets what he deserves.




You folks have so much data that can take this clown down, considering
his latest acts, that it isn't funny. Add them all together and the
charges, not to mention the people making the charges, have strength in
numbers in terms of Class Action (100 or more) and/or Group Action
(Less Than 100) lawsuits.

You've had the power all along to take him down, but you're one, two,
three individuals going after him at a time, and the largest group
apparently the RAH group, but in a defensive stance to the best of my
knowledge.

Our best chance was with Tony P but now I'm not sure what it would take
to see justice done.



This guy is a habitual criminal on top of everything else. Does not
want to mend his ways and keeps getting worse. That's a new direction
to focus on.


We were recently told that we don't have enough for a criminal prosecution and
maybe we have enough for a civil suit. Sounds like we'd have to throw good money
after bad.


Yes, you're frustrated with the way the Justice System seems to let him
slide. The larger the group, the greater the impact on the Courts as
to this ONE individual's misconduct.

As for those great guys that are "snookered" into working for him,
O'Brien indicated here at USENET that he was ashamed of his publication
and what Campbell did. Did O'Brien quit?


That's my problem with Kevin and the other writers I know who work for zoom they
tell me privately that the pay is good and it seems that's all that matters.


His people know what he's doing and do nothing to stop him. To me,
that means they're getting some hefty pay and perks causing them to be
corrupted and do nothing or lose their own angle in the industry. That
hurts people worse than what Jim does, in my opinion.

I agree


The man needs stopped. Any information I can get to put towards that
purpose is appreciated:

Mark S. "Bear" Daniels
5606 Calhoun Avenue # 5
Van Nuys, CA 91401 USA

It's that simple. If you haven't thrown your hands up in regards to
ending this guy's misconduct, send your materials there or point to
where I can find them online. I'm going into Court against him
shortly, but he's small fish to fry. Just the same, he needs fried
because then I can take his misconduct and direct it against his
co-conspirators, who are equally responsible for him along with the
government.


I don't know what you have or need but anything I have your welcome to.



I'm not stopping until he's convicted and put away...for the remainder
of his life, if necessary.
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And beyond those facts, folks, let's face it: this is a hell of an
interesting case I'm pursuing. It's too damned interesting to drop.


Good luck and I hope zoom and yawn get all they deserve.

Chuck S RAH-14/1 ret


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ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:
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Good luck and I hope zoom and yawn get all they deserve.

Chuck S RAH-14/1 ret



Like a slow dance or two with Bubba "your lips look pretty and I've
been locked up for 10 years" Cherrypopper in prison?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

In article %e80g.2302$iF3.1665@dukeread01, Dan says...

ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:
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Good luck and I hope zoom and yawn get all they deserve.

Chuck S RAH-14/1 ret



Like a slow dance or two with Bubba "your lips look pretty and I've
been locked up for 10 years" Cherrypopper in prison?

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

There's a song sung at the UL party about zoom and Bubba. I can't remember all
the words but I'll get them.

It's sung to the melody of "England swings"

The refrain is something like this:

zoom really sucks like the Talaban do.
he's the reason for his Sun n Fun Blues.
Saw zoom in the parking lot kissin peoples ass,
while beggin Dave Piper for a Sun n Fun Pass...


part of the Bubba verse goes


Listen to him hollar ,listen to him wale.
zoomy all locked up in the Sun n Fun jail.

here comes Bubba sneakin up behind ,
everybody knows what's on Bubbas mind.

I'll get all the words and post them so people can put them with the other zoom
songs that have been posted thru the years.

It's getting as popular as the song "Horse manure Falling from the sky" which is
about zoom.

Does any one have a link to the zoom song book?

See ya

Chuck S RAH-14/1 ret


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ChuckSlusarczyk wrote:

In article %e80g.2302$iF3.1665@dukeread01, Dan says...


It's sung to the melody of "England swings"

The refrain is something like this:

zoom really sucks like the Talaban do.
he's the reason for his Sun n Fun Blues.
Saw zoom in the parking lot kissin peoples ass,
while beggin Dave Piper for a Sun n Fun Pass...

How about publishing that Horse Manure song...I haven't heard any of
these. The England Swings satire is hilarious!

I might have to put a few together myself...

Frankly, I blame Dr. Dimento and Alfred E. Newman...