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Lessons learned from the Oregon tragedy
Mr Kim's death resulting from his decision to attempt to walk out of an
area he was unfamiliar with after becoming stranded, raises some thought provoking questions for aviators. In years past, this forum has carried several threads on surviving a crash in a remote area. I behooves us all to review our personal preparations for off airport landings in areas over which we will be flying. |
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Lessons learned from the Oregon tragedy
Sorry to hear about this... Does anyone have any background on it? I
live in Colorado and haven't heard about it. john smith wrote: Mr Kim's death resulting from his decision to attempt to walk out of an area he was unfamiliar with after becoming stranded, raises some thought provoking questions for aviators. In years past, this forum has carried several threads on surviving a crash in a remote area. I behooves us all to review our personal preparations for off airport landings in areas over which we will be flying. |
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Lessons learned from the Oregon tragedy
I'm thinking of getting a PLB, although I haven't been able to convince
myself to spend the money yet. Right now I carry a handheld that I hope to be able to raise someone on should I go down. --Dan john smith wrote: Mr Kim's death resulting from his decision to attempt to walk out of an area he was unfamiliar with after becoming stranded, raises some thought provoking questions for aviators. In years past, this forum has carried several threads on surviving a crash in a remote area. I behooves us all to review our personal preparations for off airport landings in areas over which we will be flying. |
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it's been all over the news.. family missing.. stuck in snow after getting
lost.. father attempted to walk out after 8 days to get help.. walked in circle.. figure he walked 15 miles and was found a mile from his vehicle.. mother and children are ok In oregon wrote in message oups.com... Sorry to hear about this... Does anyone have any background on it? I live in Colorado and haven't heard about it. john smith wrote: Mr Kim's death resulting from his decision to attempt to walk out of an area he was unfamiliar with after becoming stranded, raises some thought provoking questions for aviators. In years past, this forum has carried several threads on surviving a crash in a remote area. I behooves us all to review our personal preparations for off airport landings in areas over which we will be flying. |
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Lessons learned from the Oregon tragedy
("john smith" wrote)
Mr Kim's death resulting from his decision to attempt to walk out of an area he was unfamiliar with after becoming stranded, raises some thought provoking questions for aviators. One of his problems was thinking he was 'here,' when in fact he was ....there. Many of his subsequent decisions were based on that first wrong premise. Montblack |
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Montblack wrote:
("john smith" wrote) Mr Kim's death resulting from his decision to attempt to walk out of an area he was unfamiliar with after becoming stranded, raises some thought provoking questions for aviators. One of his problems was thinking he was 'here,' when in fact he was ...there. Many of his subsequent decisions were based on that first wrong premise. perhaps something as simple as a hand held GPS could have saved him. Or, even a hand held radio. Most pilots carry these items with them as a matter of course. |
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Lessons learned from the Oregon tragedy
perhaps something as simple as a hand held GPS could have saved him. Or,
even a hand held radio. It went well beyond that. Mr. Kim drove his family into mountainous country, above the snow line, wearing tennis shoes and light clothing. His chances of hiking out were almost nil. I know he wasn't expecting to take a wrong turn, and I know he wasn't expecting to get stuck in the snow, and I know he wasn't from that part of the country -- but the unfortunate Mr. Kim apparently did not take even the most basic precautions. We keep a giant Tupperware container of survival gear in each of our vehicles. In that kit is warm clothing, some food, chemical hand/feet warmers jumper cables, flash lights, tools -- the basic survival stuff. We have an even more extensive kit in our airplane, knowing that the *average* time from crash to rescue is 18 hours in the United States -- plenty long to die of exposure in the Midwest. -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" |
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Jay Honeck wrote:
but the unfortunate Mr. Kim apparently did not take even the most basic precautions. Happens to pilots a lot, too, I would surmise. How many pilots who fly over the relatively smaller, yet just as remote and lethal mountains of the eastern US carry survival gear? Admittedly, I am not 100% there just yet myself, but I do carry a personal locator beacon with GPS, a handheld GPS, space blanket, survival pack (matches, signal mirror, whistle, etc), and a first-aid kit. I don't have food and water at this point (not sure how to store it), nor do I have a signal gun. Regardless of the Monday morning arm-chair quarterbacking that no doubt is going on around the newsgroups and chat rooms of the Internet, Mr. Kim had a very difficult decision to make at that point. I cannot imagine what that must have been like to be in that position and I have the utmost respect for his attempt. -- Peter |
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According to an FAA study I found on their website several years ago,
the time is 72 hours. Jay Honeck wrote: We have an even more extensive kit in our airplane, knowing that the *average* time from crash to rescue is 18 hours in the United States -- plenty long to die of exposure in the Midwest. |
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