water meters

Does anybody have experience with this product or similar?:

http://www.watersavers.com/docs/yardandgarden_wat.shtml

I am looking for an inexpensive and lightweight water meter to measure
ballast. Any suggestions?

Roy

On Sep 5, 9:52 am, Roy Bourgeois
wrote:
Does anybody have experience with this product or similar?:

http://www.watersavers.com/docs/yardandgarden_wat.shtml

I am looking for an inexpensive and lightweight water meter to measure
ballast. Any suggestions?

Roy

Roy,

I have one of those meters, it works well but is not supper
accurate.

Todd Smith
3S

Yes, Roy, I have one of these. It is NOT accurate enough for
determining ballast. I use mine on the inlet of my rooftop waterbed
water carrier for making sure that I have loaded enough into the
waterbed before toting it all back to the glider to fill. It is
accurate enough for that but would not trust it beyond that.



Cumulus Soaring and Wings and Wheels both sell good ones.



HTH,



Larry

"zero one"





"Roy Bourgeois" wrote in message
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Does anybody have experience with this product or similar?:

http://www.watersavers.com/docs/yardandgarden_wat.shtml

I am looking for an inexpensive and lightweight water meter to measure
ballast. Any suggestions?

Roy

Hi Roy,

I have no idea whether the unit you mention is accurate.

However, I have received very positive feedback on the one I sell. I've sold
quite a lot of them. You can see details he
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/misc.htm#Water_Meter

Good Soaring,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com

"Roy Bourgeois" wrote in message
...
Does anybody have experience with this product or similar?:

http://www.watersavers.com/docs/yardandgarden_wat.shtml

I am looking for an inexpensive and lightweight water meter to measure
ballast. Any suggestions?

Roy

On Sep 5, 10:27 am, "01-- Zero One" wrote:
Yes, Roy, I have one of these. It is NOT accurate enough for
determining ballast. I use mine on the inlet of my rooftop waterbed
water carrier for making sure that I have loaded enough into the
waterbed before toting it all back to the glider to fill. It is
accurate enough for that but would not trust it beyond that.

Cumulus Soaring and Wings and Wheels both sell good ones.

HTH,

Larry

"zero one"

Larry,

How accurate does ballast need to be filled ? I have a Grob 102 and
my approach is fill completely, since it only holds about 220 lbs of
water. It also cross feeds when level so I don't worry about
perfectly symmetrical filling.

For other gliders, how much error is tolerable ?

Todd Smith
3S

Todd:
Use is for my Nimbus 3 that has 4 separate tanks and some roll performance
and structure considerations when using the inner vs. outer tanks. For
eastern conditions I normally load 14 gallons (100 liters) in each inner
tank and 7 gallons in the outer tanks. More weight out west - more weight
outboard when ridge flying. I am looking for a meter that is reasonably
accurate (+/- 5%) but doesn't weigh a ton ( I also fly a different N3 in
South Africa and would like to bring it with me).

Roy

Todd,



If you are filling completely then you don't need a water meter at all
do you? Just a standpipe to be sure that the water pressure is not
sufficient to burst the wings or tanks while filling.



I am more concerned that I maximize allowable for competition soaring.
Don't want the penalties. I can fill mine considerably beyond the
allowable if desired.



Larry

"zero one"






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On Sep 5, 10:27 am, "01-- Zero One" wrote:
Yes, Roy, I have one of these. It is NOT accurate enough for
determining ballast. I use mine on the inlet of my rooftop waterbed
water carrier for making sure that I have loaded enough into the
waterbed before toting it all back to the glider to fill. It is
accurate enough for that but would not trust it beyond that.

Cumulus Soaring and Wings and Wheels both sell good ones.

HTH,

Larry

"zero one"

Larry,

How accurate does ballast need to be filled ? I have a Grob 102 and
my approach is fill completely, since it only holds about 220 lbs of
water. It also cross feeds when level so I don't worry about
perfectly symmetrical filling.

For other gliders, how much error is tolerable ?

Todd Smith
3S

On Sep 5, 9:52 am, Roy Bourgeois
wrote:
Does anybody have experience with this product or similar?:

http://www.watersavers.com/docs/yardandgarden_wat.shtml

I am looking for an inexpensive and lightweight water meter to measure
ballast. Any suggestions?

Roy

Roy,

I use a model very similar to the one Paul is showing. Pluses:

- Accurate.
- Designed to work even with relatively low flow rates.
- Rugged.
- Simple

Minus
- A bit bulky and heavy (maybe 2-3 lbs).

I've seen several guys using a digital meter at contests. Though the
digital meters are pretty slick, I've adopted the KISS principle
lately on all of my supporting gear. I worry that the electronic
meters can have battery issues and that they may not be quite as
robust (mine tends to sit either in the cargo bin of the trailer with
tail dollies and towout gear or in the ballast box on top of the
roof).

Erik Mann
LS8-18 P3

On Sep 5, 9:52 am, Roy Bourgeois
wrote:
Does anybody have experience with this product or similar?:

http://www.watersavers.com/docs/yardandgarden_wat.shtml

I am looking for an inexpensive and lightweight water meter to measure
ballast. Any suggestions?

Roy

I bought water metres in 1999 in Bayreuth as I was crewing for the
Canadian team.
They are similar to Paul Remde's. They are very accurate.
I still use the one I bought for myself.
Udo

Earlier, Roy Bourgeois wrote:

I am looking for an inexpensive and lightweight water
meter to measure ballast. Any suggestions?

The last time I crewed a Nationals, we tried one of those cheapie
plastic hose meters like you get at a nursery or garden shop. It was
inaccurate to the point of uselessness. Then we bought a water utility
meter like the one between your house and the water main - basically
what Paul Remde sells. It was no cheaper than Paul's price and it took
us a couple days to find and obtain it. Were I to do it again I'd just
order whatever Paul or Tim sells and be done with it.

Bob K.