Spinner strobing as a "Bird Strike Countermeasure"

"cavelamb himself" wrote

My girl friend's 15 year old daughter is like that.
She needs LOTS of entertainment too.

Nearly impossible to have a non-drama day.

This seems to be more a part of the normal, for today's youth.

Think of it, when you were young. If there was not anything on TV while you
were at home, (good chance that there wasn't, with the selection of perhaps
5 channels if you lived near a big city) what did you do to pass the time?
You probably entertained yourself. Things I did were to ride a bike around
the neighborhood, dig another extension to my tunnels out in the woods,
build a blanket fort (smaller years) read a book, tear something apart and
put it back together again, (the last part was optional g) play with your
toys, go roller skating, ....... and the list goes on.

Now most things for the kids to do involve something or someone to entertain
them, with possibly hundreds of TV channels, music videos, video games,
internet (IM your friends) surf the internet, and so on. What do all or
most of the things today involve? Something or someone to ENTERTAIN
.....THEM! It also follows for teaching. We have to keep their attention by
entertaining them, for them to even begin considering learning something.

Not saying that this isn't true with your situation, since I don't know her,
but that is somewhat a state of being for a 15 year old, especially the
girls, I think.

*Especially* the part about the drama! g
--
Jim in NC

Airbus wrote:
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"Airbus" wrote


There's something wrong with you - you know it, and you desperately need
help.

I heard something else in the last day or two that got me thinking.

In addition to all of his other problems, I think I know what one of his
largest problems is, that explain his behavior on the internet.

He is addicted to attention. Positive, negative; it makes no difference.
Attention is what he craves, and must have it, above anything else in his
life. Just like drugs, he will get it, one way or the other.

So there it is; another thing to add onto his list of problems. Addictive
personality disorder.

This one fits too well to not be true.




Maybe - maybe not that simple.
Attention craving, certainly, but addictive, not necessarily.
I bet he doesn't play the lottery obsessively, or the horses.
But I'll also bet he doesn't have an abundance of friends dropping in.
It's more related to an inability to establish intimacy - something that went
wrong in that department a long time ago - It will take a long time to get to
the bottom of it, and a long time to get back out, but it is possible to work
through it. . .



I think that brings us all the way around to old light bulb jokes.

How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb?

None - if the light bulb really wants to change...

nobody writes:

That is not your business

But his Alzheimer's diagnosis is? Hmm.

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"Airbus" wrote in message
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"Airbus" wrote in message
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but generally Aspergers is considered less debilitating, less
of an "illness" and more of a "trait".

For personal reasons totally unrelated to aviation or the Eunuch, could
you
point me to a reference describing Aspergers as a trait rather than an
illness?




http://www.journals.cambridge.org/ac...e=online&aid=5
5139


Many Thanks.

I've been having this discussion with my wife since my son was 'diagnosed'.


It's one of those "spectrum" disorders, in which the degree makes all the
difference. Many are high-level, high acheivers. . . In other cases, living
with a family member can be a real challenge . . .

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(Robert Bonomi) wrote:

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Maxwell wrote:

"Roger (K8RI)" wrote in message
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On Sun, 02 Dec 2007 22:09:30 -0000, Jim Logajan
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At cruise RPM that effect would be completely lost. There's not a
bird or human alive that can discern stroboscopic effects of more than
a couple hundred cycles let alone over a 1000. Most of us can't even
discern 60 cps.



"Mike Noel" wrote in message
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True, but aren't we talking about 40 cps when the prop RPM is 2400?


Seems I have heard the 16 cps is all that is required for movies to appear
continuous. I think the human eye loosed it around 12 or 13. However, we
don't seen consciously either. Hence the reason an aircraft propeller will
appear to be revolving slowly backwards at times.

Visual perception is funny and complex.

black & white films were 16 frames/second.
Color films are 24 frames/second

U.S. TV is 60 fields/second, European is 50/second.
This is driven more by the need for phospors that 'decay' rapidly enough
to not produce 'blurred' motion than perception issues.

OTOH, A significant number of people can perceive 'flicker' in conventional-
tube fluorescent lamps. which is at 120 flickers/second.

I seriously doubt they can. I can discern the flicker in *some*
fluorescent lights, but I can not discern 120 cps on a strobe. I
think what they are seeing is the "sputter" of a cold lamp or a light
that isn't starting correctly. The flicker I see in those lamps is
considerably slower than 120 or even 60 cps.

First, for any flicker the phosphor has to be defective which means
the lamp is already defective so we can't expect it to be behaving
normally.

it would be interesting to see if those same people can discern even
60 cps in a strobe.

Also, the eye -- and brain -- 'notices' things that are too fleeting for
conscious identification. Google 'subliminal' advertizing -- IIRC, lab
tests showed that injected imagery with a duration of only a few milliseconds
had 'measurable' effects.

It's controversial, but has been called one of the greatest myths of
all time. It's generally accepted they are ineffective.
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?art...E19&sc=I100322
According to the Scientific American article they at best distract the
viewer.

Roger (K8RI)

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Airbus writes:

It's one of those "spectrum" disorders, in which the degree makes all the
difference.

It's one of those imaginary disorders, in which people claim that anyone
different from themselves has an "illness."

Many are high-level, high acheivers ...

In other words, there's nothing wrong with them.


There's something wrong with you - you know it, and you desperately need help.

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Airbus writes:

I'm so impressed.

Why? Anyone can look up the specs, even though many people are too lazy to do
so.


It is not surprising that someone with your disability cannot grasp sarcasm,
even when it is reduced to its simplest expression. Get help dude. You already
have the number written down - call it.

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"Airbus" wrote

There's something wrong with you - you know it, and you desperately need
help.

I heard something else in the last day or two that got me thinking.

In addition to all of his other problems, I think I know what one of his
largest problems is, that explain his behavior on the internet.

He is addicted to attention. Positive, negative; it makes no difference.
Attention is what he craves, and must have it, above anything else in his
life. Just like drugs, he will get it, one way or the other.

So there it is; another thing to add onto his list of problems. Addictive
personality disorder.

This one fits too well to not be true.



Maybe - maybe not that simple.
Attention craving, certainly, but addictive, not necessarily.
I bet he doesn't play the lottery obsessively, or the horses.
But I'll also bet he doesn't have an abundance of friends dropping in.
It's more related to an inability to establish intimacy - something that went
wrong in that department a long time ago - It will take a long time to get to
the bottom of it, and a long time to get back out, but it is possible to work
through it. . .

There is quite a lot of evidence that repeated mental processes do in
fact modify the physical brain. Bagley's book "Train Your Mind, Change
Your Brain", is worth glacing thru if you find the professional
literature boring.

If a person's mental activity is largely devoted to playing a
simulator game and posting on the net, one can be sure other underused
parts of the brain begin getting used to support those activiites. If
you pilot an airplane often, the process becomes 'easier' because
there's actually more brain devoted to it. Some other underused
activity will be less supported.

Researchers are always on the lookout for subjects who spend much of
their time in unusual ways, so that their brain functions can be
mapped with some of the newer imaging methodologies.

Anthony, I have this infromed consent document here I'd like you to
read. After you sign it we're going to stick your head in this fNMR
brain bloodflow imaging device. . . . .

Hey guys, don't laugh. It may sound funny, but we do that kind of
stuff every day. And there are many many safeguards to protect all of
our subjects, so don't start thinking after the process someone like
Anthony after being subjected to intense magnetic fields will only
walk north or something.


although poorly On Dec 9, 5:48 am, Airbus wrote:
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"Airbus" wrote

There's something wrong with you - you know it, and you desperately need
help.

I heard something else in the last day or two that got me thinking.

In addition to all of his other problems, I think I know what one of his
largest problems is, that explain his behavior on the internet.

He is addicted to attention. Positive, negative; it makes no difference.
Attention is what he craves, and must have it, above anything else in his
life. Just like drugs, he will get it, one way or the other.

So there it is; another thing to add onto his list of problems. Addictive
personality disorder.

This one fits too well to not be true.

Maybe - maybe not that simple.
Attention craving, certainly, but addictive, not necessarily.
I bet he doesn't play the lottery obsessively, or the horses.
But I'll also bet he doesn't have an abundance of friends dropping in.
It's more related to an inability to establish intimacy - something that went
wrong in that department a long time ago - It will take a long time to get to
the bottom of it, and a long time to get back out, but it is possible to work
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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nobody writes:

That is not your business

But his Alzheimer's diagnosis is?

Nope