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Old November 6th 07, 01:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
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Well, I use Jeppesen charts an the CCR 004 radial is on there. It was
ommitted from the NACO chart in error and will be correct on the 12/20
chart cycle.



It was the NACO chart that was referenced in the OP. Omitting it seems like
a good idea, what purpose does it serve?



NDB navigation.



What about it?


It is self-explanatory. Sorry if you don't understand.
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Old November 6th 07, 01:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
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Steve is technically correct that the IAP could begin at KANAN NDB, but I
doubt NorCal would ever do that.



It COULD begin at KANAN? KANAN is an IAF, do you know what an IAF is?



The only feasible routing would be V-108
from the west to CCR, then direct KANAN. That would require ADF equipment
just as would the feeder route from COLLI. ADF isn't required for this
procedure, so for the non-ADF aircraft the only non-radar entry is viar
REJOY.



There are several feasible routes, as I explained in an earlier message.


That is your opinion in the abstract. You are not qualified at NorCal.
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Old November 6th 07, 01:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

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The legal method of identifying JOANNS is the SGD 074 and the CCR 006. The
DME is charted but useless for fix identification because of the angle.
Some piloting/interpretive skills are presumed by the FAA designers.



JOANS is identified by the intersection of the SGD 074R and the LOC.


That is one way but not the only acceptable way. The DME is not acceptable.

You should look at the charts that get this stuff right most of the time.

Or, with your inside connections, get a copy of the JOANS 8260-2

The source document states:

Fac 1 is the localizer, Fac 2
is CCR VOR, Fac 3 is SGD VORTAC, and Fac 4 is the LOM.
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Old November 6th 07, 02:48 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Sam Spade" wrote in message
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It is self-explanatory. Sorry if you don't understand.


If it was self-explanatory I wouldn't have had to ask the question.


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Old November 6th 07, 02:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Sam Spade" wrote in message
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That is your opinion in the abstract.


It is not an opinion.



You are not qualified at NorCal.


Irrelevant, and Travis serves CCR.


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Old November 6th 07, 02:53 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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"Sam Spade" wrote in message
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That is one way but not the only acceptable way.


It's the only way necessary.


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Old November 6th 07, 05:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
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Default Help interpreting an approach chart (KCCR LDA Rwy 19R)

Sam Spade wrote:

The DME is charted but useless for fix identification because of
the angle. Some piloting/interpretive skills are presumed by the FAA
designers.-

I don't understand this. If you're on the localizer and have the CCR
8.1, there is only one place you can be. Why is this a useless means
of fix identification?

 




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