CA Did Not Cave To Standard Bush Security Demands

Let's hope others in power oppose Bush's TFRs:



http://correntewire.com/bush_to_ca_burn_baybee_burn
CA Did Not Cave To Standard Bush Security Demands

Thanks in large measure to LtGov (Democrat) John Garamendi’s pounding
on the issue, agreement was reached with Secret Service etc to let
Bush have his meaningless photo op so long as all the firefighting
effort continued uninterrupted.

From FAA flight restriction notification: [Warning! Site triggered a
“Certification Error” caution flag but I opened it and am still OK,
your consequence may vary.]

“7/1542 - PART 2 OF 6 CA.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS, SAN DIEGO….”
“A. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN A 10 NMR AREA LISTED ABOVE ARE
PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. ALL EMERGENCY/LIFE SAVING FLIGHT
(MEDICAL/LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIREFIGHTING) OPERATIONS DIRECTLY SUPPORTING
THE CURRENT FIRE EMERGENCY, APPROVED LAW ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY
AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE (USSS)
AND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, APPROVED
EMERGENCY MEDICAL FLIGHTS,”

All approved flights are required to maintain continuous voice contact
or squawking their beacon but that would be a requirement in such a
crowded environment anyway. Bush gets his moment but without any
negative impact, what a nice change of pace!

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http://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_7_1542.html

NOTAM Number : FDC 7/1542
Issue Date : October 24, 2007 at 1929 UTC
Location : San Diego, California
Beginning Date and Time : October 25, 2007 at 1605 UTC
Ending Date and Time : October 25, 2007 at 2050 UTC
Reason for NOTAM : Temporary flight restrictions for VIP (Very
Important Person) Movement

Affected Area(s) Top

Area A
Airspace Definition:
Center: 13.2 nautical miles from MISSION BAY VORTAC(MZB) on the 029
radial (Latitude: 32º56'32"N, Longitude: 117º02'40"W)
Radius: 30 nautical miles
Altitude: From the surface up to but not including FL(180)
Effective Date(s):
From October 25, 2007 at 1605 UTC (October 25, 2007 at 0905 PDT)
To October 25, 2007 at 2050 UTC (October 25, 2007 at 1350 PDT)

Area B
Airspace Definition:
Center: 8.3 nautical miles from MISSION BAY VORTAC(MZB) on the 034
radial (Latitude: 32º52'24"N, Longitude: 117º06'06"W)
Radius: 10 nautical miles
Altitude: From the surface up to but not including FL(180)
Effective Date(s):
From October 25, 2007 at 1605 UTC (October 25, 2007 at 0905 PDT)
To October 25, 2007 at 1715 UTC (October 25, 2007 at 1015 PDT)

Area C
Airspace Definition:
Center: 19.3 nautical miles from MISSION BAY VORTAC(MZB) on the 010
radial (Latitude: 33º04'30"N, Longitude: 117º03'56"W)
Radius: 10 nautical miles
Altitude: From the surface up to but not including FL(180)
Effective Date(s):
From October 25, 2007 at 1645 UTC (October 25, 2007 at 0945 PDT)
To October 25, 2007 at 2030 UTC (October 25, 2007 at 1330 PDT)

Area D
Airspace Definition:
Center: 8.3 nautical miles from MISSION BAY VORTAC(MZB) on the 034
radial (Latitude: 32º52'24"N, Longitude: 117º06'06"W)
Radius: 10 nautical miles
Altitude: From the surface up to but not including FL(180)
Effective Date(s):
From October 25, 2007 at 1945 UTC (October 25, 2007 at 1245 PDT)
To October 25, 2007 at 2050 UTC (October 25, 2007 at 1350 PDT)



Operating Restrictions and Requirements

No pilots may operate an aircraft in the areas covered by this NOTAM
(except as described).

EXCEPT AS SPECIFIED BELOW EXCLUDING MEXICAN AIRSPACE AND/OR UNLESS
AUTHORIZED BY THE AIR TRAFFIC SECURITY COORDINATOR VIA THE DOMESTIC
EVENTS NETWORK (DEN):

A. All aircraft operations within a 10 NMR area listed above are
prohibited except for:

ALL EMERGENCY/LIFE SAVING FLIGHT (MEDICAL/LAW
ENFORCEMENT/FIREFIGHTING) OPERATIONS DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE CURRENT
FIRE EMERGENCY, APPROVED LAW ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY
SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE (USSS) AND THE OFFICE OF
THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, APPROVED EMERGENCY MEDICAL
FLIGHTS, AND REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND ALL-CARGO
CARRIERS OPERATING UNDER ONE OF THE FOLLOWING TSA-APPROVED STANDARD
SECURITY PROGRAMS/PROCEDURES: AIRCRAFT OPERATOR STANDARD SECURITY
PROGRAM (AOSSP), DOMESTIC SECURITY INTEGRATION PROGRAM (DSIP), TWELVE
FIVE STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (TFSSP) ALL CARGO, OR ALL-CARGO
INTERNATIONAL SECURITY PROCEDURE (ACISP) AND ARE ARRIVING INTO AND/OR
DEPARTING FROM 14 CFR PART 139 AIRPORTS.

FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN THE TFR, ALL EMERGENCY/LIFE SAVING FLIGHT
(MEDICAL/LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIREFIGHTING) OPERATIONS NOT SPECIFICALLY IN
SUPPORT OF THE CURRENT FIRE EMERGENCY MUST COORDINATE IN ADVANCE WITH
THE USSS AT 858-537-5900 TO AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS.



B. Within the airspace between 10 NMR and 30 NMR listed above:

All aircraft entering or exiting the 30 NM radius TFR must be on an
active IFR or VFR flight plan with a discrete code assigned by an Air
Traffic Control (ATC) facility. Aircraft must be squawking the
discrete code prior to departure and at all times while in the TFR.

All aircraft entering or exiting the 30 NM radius TFR must remain in
two-way radio communications with ATC.

All aircraft operating within the 10 to 30 NM radius TFR and operating
at altitudes of up to but not including FL180 are limited to aircraft
arriving or departing local airfields and ATC may authorize transit
operations. Aircraft may not loiter.

FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT,
GLIDER OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING,
BALLOON OPERATIONS, AGRICULTURE/CROP DUSTING, ANIMAL POPULATION
CONTROL FLIGHT OPERATIONS, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, MODEL AIRCRAFT
OPERATIONS, MODEL ROCKETRY, AND UNMANNED AERIAL SYSTEMS (UAS) ARE NOT
AUTHORIZED.

All USSS cleared aircraft operators based in the area should notify
the USSS prior to their departure.

FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN THE 10 TO 30 NM RADIUS TFR, ALL EMERGENCY/LIFE
SAVING FLIGHT (MEDICAL/LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIREFIGHTING/DOD) OPERATIONS IN
SUPPORT OF THE CURRENT FIRE EMERGENCY WITHIN THE TFR ARE EXEMPT FROM
THE ABOVE RESTRICTIONS. THESE OPERATIONS NOT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE
CURRENT FIRE EMERGENCY MUST COORDINATE FLIGHTS IN ADVANCE WITH THE
USSS AT 858-537-5900 TO AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS.



C. WITHIN THE ENTIRE TFR AREA ALL EMERGENCY/LIFE SAVING FLIGHT
(MEDICAL/LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIREFIGHTING/DOD) OPERATIONS IN SUPPORT OF
THE CURRENT FIRE EMERGENCY MUST BE EITHER REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO
COMMUNICATIONS WITH ATC OR BE SQUAWKING AN ASSIGNED BEACON CODE.

D. FAA RECOMMENDS THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS FREQUENTLY
FOR POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS WITHIN THIS
REGION.


Other Information: Top
ARTCC: ZLA - Los Angeles Center
Authority: Title 14 CFR section 91.141

Larry Dighera writes:

Let's hope others in power oppose Bush's TFRs:

Perhaps that is over-optimistic.

Thanks in large measure to LtGov (Democrat) John Garamendi’s pounding
on the issue, agreement was reached with Secret Service etc to let
Bush have his meaningless photo op so long as all the firefighting
effort continued uninterrupted.

From FAA flight restriction notification: [Warning! Site triggered a
“Certification Error� caution flag but I opened it and am still OK,
your consequence may vary.]

“7/1542 - PART 2 OF 6 CA.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS, SAN DIEGO….�
“A. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN A 10 NMR AREA LISTED ABOVE ARE
PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. ALL EMERGENCY/LIFE SAVING FLIGHT
(MEDICAL/LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIREFIGHTING) OPERATIONS DIRECTLY SUPPORTING
THE CURRENT FIRE EMERGENCY, APPROVED LAW ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY
AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE (USSS)
AND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, APPROVED
EMERGENCY MEDICAL FLIGHTS,�

All approved flights are required to maintain continuous voice contact
or squawking their beacon but that would be a requirement in such a
crowded environment anyway. Bush gets his moment but without any
negative impact, what a nice change of pace!

Good news, for a change. Someone refused to salute the hat on the pole.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Larry Dighera writes:

Let's hope others in power oppose Bush's TFRs:

Perhaps that is over-optimistic.


What, like your view that you have a life?


Bertie

On 2007-10-27 11:14:01 -0700, Larry Dighera said:


Let's hope others in power oppose Bush's TFRs:



http://correntewire.com/bush_to_ca_burn_baybee_burn
CA Did Not Cave To Standard Bush Security Demands

Thanks in large measure to LtGov (Democrat) John Garamendi’s pounding
on the issue, agreement was reached with Secret Service etc to let
Bush have his meaningless photo op so long as all the firefighting
effort continued uninterrupted.

From FAA flight restriction notification: [Warning! Site triggered a
“Certification Error” caution flag but I opened it and am still OK,
your consequence may vary.]

“7/1542 - PART 2 OF 6 CA.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS, SAN DIEGO….”
“A. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN A 10 NMR AREA LISTED ABOVE ARE
PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. ALL EMERGENCY/LIFE SAVING FLIGHT
(MEDICAL/LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIREFIGHTING) OPERATIONS DIRECTLY SUPPORTING
THE CURRENT FIRE EMERGENCY, APPROVED LAW ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY
AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE (USSS)
AND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, APPROVED
EMERGENCY MEDICAL FLIGHTS,”

All approved flights are required to maintain continuous voice contact
or squawking their beacon but that would be a requirement in such a
crowded environment anyway. Bush gets his moment but without any
negative impact, what a nice change of pace!

All Presidential TFRs have standard language like that allowing law
enforcement, emergency, and firefighting aircraft into the TFR.
California had nothing to do with it. Garamendis is taking credit for
doing nothing.



--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

C J Campbell wrote:

On 2007-10-27 11:14:01 -0700, Larry Dighera said:


Let's hope others in power oppose Bush's TFRs:



http://correntewire.com/bush_to_ca_burn_baybee_burn
CA Did Not Cave To Standard Bush Security Demands

Thanks in large measure to LtGov (Democrat) John Garamendi’s pounding
on the issue, agreement was reached with Secret Service etc to let
Bush have his meaningless photo op so long as all the firefighting
effort continued uninterrupted.

From FAA flight restriction notification: [Warning! Site triggered a
“Certification Error” caution flag but I opened it and am still OK,
your consequence may vary.]

“7/1542 - PART 2 OF 6 CA.. FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS, SAN DIEGO….”
“A. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN A 10 NMR AREA LISTED ABOVE ARE
PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. ALL EMERGENCY/LIFE SAVING FLIGHT
(MEDICAL/LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIREFIGHTING) OPERATIONS DIRECTLY SUPPORTING
THE CURRENT FIRE EMERGENCY, APPROVED LAW ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY
AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE (USSS)
AND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, APPROVED
EMERGENCY MEDICAL FLIGHTS,”

All approved flights are required to maintain continuous voice contact
or squawking their beacon but that would be a requirement in such a
crowded environment anyway. Bush gets his moment but without any
negative impact, what a nice change of pace!

All Presidential TFRs have standard language like that allowing law
enforcement, emergency, and firefighting aircraft into the TFR.
California had nothing to do with it. Garamendis is taking credit for
doing nothing.

Then why was all the aerial rescue work stopped within the TFR when he
ingratiated himself to New Orleans, or was the wording something that
changed after all the criticism?

On Oct 27, 1:14 pm, Larry Dighera wrote:
Let's hope others in power oppose Bush's TFRs:

http://correntewire.com/bush_to_ca_burn_baybee_burn
CA Did Not Cave To Standard Bush Security Demands

Thanks in large measure to LtGov (Democrat) John Garamendi's pounding
on the issue, agreement was reached with Secret Service etc to let
Bush have his meaningless photo op so long as all the firefighting
effort continued uninterrupted.

However, dozens of firefighters were pulled off the lines to stand
behind Drunkya for his photo-op, many choose not to smile for the
cameras and were turned away chatting.

The phoney FEMA "news" conference was classic Cheney staging,
laughable...JG

Larry Dighera wrote:
Let's hope others in power oppose Bush's TFRs:


I was in McCall, ID in the summer of 2000, when the airport and surrounding
airspace was shut down for several hours while Clinton did a forest fire
photo op. The tanker pilots had a few choice comments on the radio (for AF1
and Marine1) , while they circled outside the area.

It's not just a Bush thing. The problem is an executive branch that puts
their priorities above those that they are supposedly concerned about. No
one in McCall was fooled that summer.

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:18:18 GMT, "flynrider via AviationKB.com"
u32749@uwe wrote in 7a6c183288532@uwe:

It's not just a Bush thing. The problem is an executive branch that puts
their priorities above those that they are supposedly concerned about.

These VIP TFRs are typical of the ineffectiveness of the DHS.

If the appearance of Clinton or Bush at the scene of the fires were
able to actually effect some benefit in fighting the fires, these
self-promoting photo-ops might be excusable.

It makes one wonder what it would take for the FAA to exclude VIPs
from the Fire TFRs as well as pilots.

Larry Dighera wrote:
On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:18:18 GMT, "flynrider via AviationKB.com"
u32749@uwe wrote in 7a6c183288532@uwe:

It's not just a Bush thing. The problem is an executive branch that
puts their priorities above those that they are supposedly concerned
about.

These VIP TFRs are typical of the ineffectiveness of the DHS.

If the appearance of Clinton or Bush at the scene of the fires were
able to actually effect some benefit in fighting the fires, these
self-promoting photo-ops might be excusable.


The problem is if the Prez just does a fly-by like he did right after New
Orleans flooded he took crap for not being there.

On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:48:49 -0500, "Gig 601XL Builder"
wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
:


The problem is if the Prez just does a fly-by like he did right after New
Orleans flooded he took crap for not being there.


The problem is, that the TSA/DHS doesn't understand how their VIP TFRs
hamper emergency responders' efforts.