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Hey guys, after my first gliding (sorry, I'm English ) session a
few months ago I'm dying to get into the sport, and I've got a couple more sessions lined up over summer. Anyways, amongst other things I'm a keen software developer and I've recently stumbled across Google's Android. For those of you who aren't familiar with what it is, it's an operating system designed to run on mobile phones - very similar (if not better) than the iPhone OS. I have found out that most phones have a full range of sensors (pitch, yaw, digital compass and GPS to name a few) and was thinking that Android would be the ideal platform for a small alternative instrument panel. Not having had much gliding experience I'm really not sure what to include. So my question is, as a glider (hang-gliding included) pilot, what sort of instruments do you regularly use or would find handy to have displayed. I was thinking something along the lines of a navigation system (relatively easy to implement) and basic flight instruments such as heading, altitude, airspeed etc. Please bare in mind that this is obviously no replacement for any of the instruments you already have and never will be, it's simply a small project that I intend for it to make things a bit easier/ accessible for the pilot. Would love to hear your feedback. Regards, Mike |
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On Jul 4, 11:58*am, Mike wrote:
Hey guys, after my first gliding (sorry, I'm English ) session a few months ago I'm dying to get into the sport, and I've got a couple more sessions lined up over summer. Anyways, amongst other things I'm a keen software developer and I've recently stumbled across Google's Android. For those of you who aren't familiar with what it is, it's an operating system designed to run on mobile phones - very similar (if not better) than the iPhone OS. I have found out that most phones have a full range of sensors (pitch, yaw, digital compass and GPS to name a few) and was thinking that Android would be the ideal platform for a small alternative instrument panel. Not having had much gliding experience I'm really not sure what to include. So my question is, as a glider (hang-gliding included) pilot, what sort of instruments do you regularly use or would find handy to have displayed. I was thinking something along the lines of a navigation system (relatively easy to implement) and basic flight instruments such as heading, altitude, airspeed etc. Please bare in mind that this is obviously no replacement for any of the instruments you already have and never will be, it's simply a small project that I intend for it to make things a bit easier/ accessible for the pilot. Would love to hear your feedback. Regards, Mike GPS is likely really all that is interesting in real soaring applications. Look at SeeYou Mobile, WinPilot and XCSoar as example of leading soaring software. The consumer grade compasses etc. are not that useful in our cockpits. XCSoar is being ported to Linux and Android. Without a lot of experience in soaring your best bet may be to help that effort if you are interested. Darryl |
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On Jul 4, 12:58*pm, Mike wrote:
Hey guys, after my first gliding (sorry, I'm English ) session a few months ago I'm dying to get into the sport, and I've got a couple more sessions lined up over summer. Anyways, amongst other things I'm a keen software developer and I've recently stumbled across Google's Android. For those of you who aren't familiar with what it is, it's an operating system designed to run on mobile phones - very similar (if not better) than the iPhone OS. I have found out that most phones have a full range of sensors (pitch, yaw, digital compass and GPS to name a few) and was thinking that Android would be the ideal platform for a small alternative instrument panel. Not having had much gliding experience I'm really not sure what to include. So my question is, as a glider (hang-gliding included) pilot, what sort of instruments do you regularly use or would find handy to have displayed. I was thinking something along the lines of a navigation system (relatively easy to implement) and basic flight instruments such as heading, altitude, airspeed etc. Please bare in mind that this is obviously no replacement for any of the instruments you already have and never will be, it's simply a small project that I intend for it to make things a bit easier/ accessible for the pilot. Would love to hear your feedback. Regards, Mike I'd encourage you to keep looking at the Android platform. I don't know of one with the same 6DOF inertial measurement unit (IMU) as the iPhone but I'd bet one is coming if it doesn't exist. An IMU offers the possibility of a considerable improvement in thermal centering aids and the possibly a fully inertial TE vario with zero gust sensitivity and instant response. GPS is very good at relatively long time scale navigation but an IMU is much better at very short time scales. |
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On Jul 5, 12:47*am, bildan wrote:
On Jul 4, 12:58*pm, Mike wrote: Hey guys, after my first gliding (sorry, I'm English ) session a few months ago I'm dying to get into the sport, and I've got a couple more sessions lined up over summer. Anyways, amongst other things I'm a keen software developer and I've recently stumbled across Google's Android. For those of you who aren't familiar with what it is, it's an operating system designed to run on mobile phones - very similar (if not better) than the iPhone OS. I have found out that most phones have a full range of sensors (pitch, yaw, digital compass and GPS to name a few) and was thinking that Android would be the ideal platform for a small alternative instrument panel. Not having had much gliding experience I'm really not sure what to include. So my question is, as a glider (hang-gliding included) pilot, what sort of instruments do you regularly use or would find handy to have displayed. I was thinking something along the lines of a navigation system (relatively easy to implement) and basic flight instruments such as heading, altitude, airspeed etc. Please bare in mind that this is obviously no replacement for any of the instruments you already have and never will be, it's simply a small project that I intend for it to make things a bit easier/ accessible for the pilot. Would love to hear your feedback. Regards, Mike I'd encourage you to keep looking at the Android platform. *I don't know of one with the same 6DOF inertial measurement unit (IMU) as the iPhone but I'd bet one is coming if it doesn't exist. *An IMU offers the possibility of a considerable improvement in thermal centering aids and the possibly a fully inertial TE vario with zero gust sensitivity and instant response. GPS is very good at relatively long time scale navigation but an IMU is much better at very short time scales.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Maybe you should at this site as well: http://www.kflog.org/cumulus/ It is an open source development of a nav system running Maemo, another linux derivative. |
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What we really need is an electronic yaw string. Physical yaw strings
cause so much drag, and they sometimes come off during flight. |
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"Liam" wrote
What we really need is an electronic yaw string. Physical yaw strings cause so much drag, and they sometimes come off during flight. They donīt come off if you mount them properly, see this link for instructions: http://groups.google.de/group/rec.av...16a6bf3984f0cc Michael |
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On Jul 6, 4:07*am, "Michael Huber" wrote:
"Liam" wrote What we really need is an electronic yaw string. *Physical yaw strings cause so much drag, and they sometimes come off during flight. They donīt come off if you mount them properly, see this link for instructions:http://groups.google.de/group/rec.av...16a6bf3984f0cc Michael That sounds like a viable option. I wonder if anyone's tried simply mounting the string on the inside of the canopy? It could be located in the stream of a defogging air vent outlet so it would still perform it's function. |
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On Jul 6, 7:07*am, Liam wrote:
What we really need is an electronic yaw string. *Physical yaw strings cause so much drag, and they sometimes come off during flight. Do yaw strings really cause that much drag? I would never have guessed. I'm doing an intensive gliding course this summer so I should have some time to test out some stuff then. I managed a whole couple of circuits until finals by myself the other day, I was rather pleased with myself xD I have a HTC Dream (T-Mobile G1) and it has a full 6DoF IMU, I think quite a few other devices do actually. I'm thinking something along the lines of datalogging the positional data from the GPS and allowing you to import it into something like Google Earth when back on the ground so you can view the flightpath and attitudes at any given time. Regards, Mike. |
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On Jul 6, 6:40*pm, Liam wrote:
On Jul 6, 4:07*am, "Michael Huber" wrote: "Liam" wrote What we really need is an electronic yaw string. *Physical yaw strings cause so much drag, and they sometimes come off during flight. They donīt come off if you mount them properly, see this link for instructions:http://groups.google.de/group/rec.av...16a6bf3984f0cc Michael That sounds like a viable option. *I wonder if anyone's tried simply mounting the string on the inside of the canopy? *It could be located in the stream of a defogging air vent outlet so it would still perform it's function. Do yaw strings really cause that much drag? I would never have guessed. I'm doing an intensive gliding course this summer so I should have some time to test out some stuff then. I managed a whole couple of circuits until finals by myself the other day, I was rather pleased with myself xD I have a HTC Dream (T-Mobile G1) and it has a full 6DoF IMU, I think quite a few other devices do actually. I'm thinking something along the lines of datalogging the positional data from the GPS and allowing you to import it into something like Google Earth when back on the ground so you can view the flightpath and attitudes at any given time. Regards, Mike. |
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