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Ren Yenc
"HEMI-Powered" schreef in bericht ... Oviedo added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... Speaking of weak arguements - I have seen examples of the same post in jpg and ynec formats and the 39% doesn't hold water. Maybe 3.9%, but no where near 39%. You are entirely wrong. The spec for yEnc itself quotes the number, I didn't, but since you're obviously so ignorant, try posting the exact same JPEG with Uuencode and with yEnc and see for yourself. The actual size of the binary doesn't change, of course, but almost all of the Uue overhead is eliminated by yEnc resulting in a much smaller as-posted size. Were it not for this fact, why would it have been invented and why would so many people, all far more knowledgeable then you, quote the same reduction? -- HP, aka Jerry Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet And why, oh utterly knowledgeable one, don't you get a decent provider and connection, thus making all this stupid encoding completely redundant and looking as backward as the 18th century? Regards, Herman |
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Ren Yenc
"Maple1" schreef in bericht news:hDYuk.141550$nD.126777@pd7urf1no... JRW wrote: Flooding, well okay, *but at least provide indexes*. Then at least you can choose what you want to see. Why flood images that are not your own the floods are of images redaly availible on the USAF/ NASA and USN sites. Frankly I, along with others don't even look. The few loud mouths that do THINK they speak for the rest of us, look...lol You would think, after all the DON'T DO IT posts they'd get a clue. No, it's pure to disrupt and gain attention. Nothing else. They do it because they can, and don't give a flying whazzo if anyone looks at their posts. That is why they are never original work They post on topic, but don't give a **** about the most of the folks that would view them. Because you can see them on the originating sites. I agree a few dozen a day is best. No one is "waiting" for these. Why wait when you can visit the original sites A few posts like you said per day would be great. You'll never change their spots....killfile is the best. Damn shame! Not a shame to killfile if the work were their own like Glen/Dale and others then it might be a shame but your right it is a I dont give a rats ass attitude toward others that has all but started to ruin this group. So flood away and post in YENC no use complaining you just need to go to the NASA site and you will find most if not all the photos that have been posted. You might also want to visit the USAF site for the high rez shots there. Let them flood and post just killfile them and trust me you are not missing anything. Hear, hear! Regards, Herman |
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Ren Yenc
Herman added these comments in the current discussion du jour
.... "Oviedo" schreef in bericht ... yEnc is an encoding scheme, not a graphics format. It can be used to post any type of binary. It's primary advantage is a reduction in the as-posted size of a file by some 39% over the more common Uuencode. It seems that the most often cited reason for universal hatred of yEnc is that Outhouse Depressed doesn't support it, a rather weak argument at best. -- HP, aka Jerry Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet Speaking of weak arguements - I have seen examples of the same post in jpg and ynec formats and the 39% doesn't hold water. Maybe 3.9%, but no where near 39%. And besides: With todays connections (whispers: broadband), who needs these stupid compression programs? Just post your pictures as is, of course after getting a decent provider who will offer you a broadband connection. To all you yEnc fans: wake up to the 21st century. You don't have to use dial-up connections anymore. I have broadband. Next month I will be connected to a glass-fibre network that is being installed in the whole town I live in, so my connection speed will be even higher. Stop farting around with your stupid encoding end get a useful provider. another stupid Luddite Outhouse Depressed owner speaketh. why don't you just get a real news reader and you won't have to rail against the users of yEnc any longer. -- HP, aka Jerry Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet |
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Ren Yenc
Herman added these comments in the current discussion du jour
.... And why, oh utterly knowledgeable one, don't you get a decent provider and connection, thus making all this stupid encoding completely redundant and looking as backward as the 18th century? Lot more knowledgeable than you, but to answer your question, I have a good provider and I also have a real news reader so the entire yEnc debate is moot. now, go away, numbnuts, you bore me. -- HP, aka Jerry Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet |
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Ren Yenc
"HEMI-Powered" schreef in bericht ... JRW added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... Flooding, well okay, *but at least provide indexes*. Then at least you can choose what you want to see. Frankly I, along with others don't even look. The few loud mouths that do THINK they speak for the rest of us, look...lol You would think, after all the DON'T DO IT posts they'd get a clue. No, it's pure to disrupt and gain attention. Nothing else. They do it because they can, and don't give a flying whazzo if anyone looks at their posts. They post on topic, but don't give a **** about the most of the folks that would view them. I agree a few dozen a day is best. No one is "waiting" for these. A few posts like you said per day would be great. You'll never change their spots....killfile is the best. Damn shame! What do you consider the threshold of flooding? No one is forced to open every post or any at all so what's the big fuss? If this NG has a collective strong feeling about on-topic posts, max posts/day, and encoding scheme(s), perhaps an enforceable FAQ should be adopted to guide people. -- HP, aka Jerry Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet True, you don't have to open every post. But when some moron decides to flood the NG with 15,000 posts, at J3 did recently, this is bound to cause problems. There are people active who post in formats / numbers that most people do not appreciate. But they still go ahead, just because they can. An enforceable FAQ is not neccessary when people just apply some common sense and remember what mommy told them about good manners. Regards, Herman |
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Ren Yenc
"michael hoare" wrote in message
... I dont care if its been said a thousand times i fail to see the point of encrypting entries so that they cant be viewed without downloading some other crap to view them ....whats the purpose of it ..what purpose does it serve besides ****ing off those who cant view the pics i really dont see the point of it all Mick H I appreciate both sides of the argument but, given Yenc has been out for years and it still hasn't gained any significant market space it's a proven dud. As for getting additional plugins or other news readers, why bother? The ones most of us use have been serving us perfectly well for over a decade, cost nothing, and the newer readers don't seem to offer any significant improvements. |
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Ren Yenc
I haven't read the whole thread, and likely won't, but perhaps someone
can tell me - are the two sides acting like children and calling each other assholes yet? Waldo. |
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Ren Yenc
"HEMI-Powered" schreef in bericht ... Martin Helms added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... This is exactly the same I am using, however, the problem with the most recent YEnc posts lies within you last sentence, "so long as the yEnc is written into the subject heading". Unfortunately, the person posting it (oh so wiesly chosing yEnc as a handle) ignored this most important rule about yEnc. It is imparative the term is to be included in the subject line so that either we can read the posts or others, who simply do not wish to read yEn posts at all (for w/e reason) can properly filter them. Properly written apps will either automatically add "yEnc" to the subject line or require the poster to add it. Some folks really seem to be lacking certain manners... :/ What does using yEnc have to do with manners? This is much to do about nothing and the entire debate is because the Luddites who insist on using Outhouse Depressed instead of a real news reader can't decode yEnc. -- HP, aka Jerry Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet You are very proud of your wordplay, it appears, but this does not alter the fact that many people use OE. yEnc is a toy for people who insist on showing that they are clever. Well, good for you. You are a clever boy, now go and do something useful, like posting pictures as is. If you use a decent provider and connection there is no need for these silly programs. Grow up. Regards, Herman |
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Ren Yenc
"Waldo.Pepper" schreef in bericht ... I haven't read the whole thread, and likely won't, but perhaps someone can tell me - are the two sides acting like children and calling each other assholes yet? Waldo. Not yet. But it won't be long now :-( Regards, Herman |
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Ren Yenc
michael hoare wrote:
I dont care if its been said a thousand times i fail to see the point of encrypting entries so that they cant be viewed without downloading some other crap to view them ....whats the purpose of it ..what purpose does it serve besides ****ing off those who cant view the pics i really dont see the point of it all Mick H |
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