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FYI, I sent a message off to Dennis at 3:35 this afternoon, about the
incorrect club info on the new page. I received a message from Doug Easton at 8:09 asking me to check the corrections. That's a turn around time of 4 1/2 hours on a Sunday afternoon! Way to go SSA. Charlie |
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Greg,
I have mentioned this to Rod at Hangar One two times over the past few years and he just shrugged his shoulders. I don't know what it takes to get on the web page but he sure wasn't interested in doing anything about it. BTW: Is he operating this summer? I had heard he was perhaps 'retiring'. |
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I would like to see a better reason to spend money.
This site now suffers from the Cadillac syndrome when we need a Model T. Sites all over the Web are far too flashy requiring more bandwith for less content. As several poster's have noted numerous sites previousy reported are now missing requiring MORE time to troubleshoot. Another example: the Illini GLider Club, one of the oldest glider clubs in the United States with roots back to the 1920's, is now missing. Spending more money to fix a web site thats not broken is a wasteof money. IMHO |
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BlueGliderGuy wrote: I would like to see a better reason to spend money. This site now suffers from the Cadillac syndrome when we need a Model T. Sites all over the Web are far too flashy requiring more bandwith for less content. As several poster's have noted numerous sites previousy reported are now missing requiring MORE time to troubleshoot. Another example: the Illini GLider Club, one of the oldest glider clubs in the United States with roots back to the 1920's, is now missing. Spending more money to fix a web site thats not broken is a wasteof money. IMHO BlueGliderGuy Is the Illini Glider club a chapter of SSA? If not, they should become one. This would then,once info is provided, get them listed on where to fly. Where to fly shows chapters and business members, but does not show non affiliated organizations. No money was spent on this. It is the result of hard work by a number of creative and dedicated volunteers led bt Doug Easton. More improvements will be coming from these guys. I say WELL DONE! UH |
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I would like to see all known soaring locations displayed on the map.
Different symbols could be used for those who have chosen to affiliate with the SSA and the ones who are not affiliated. Wayne http://www.soaridaho.com/ "Albert Gold" wrote in message ... wrote: Concerned as we are about serving glider pilots and potential glider pilots and about the growth, or at least arresting the decline of the sport, it seems to me that this section of the web site should have as its objective making it easy for people, members and non-members, to find soaring sites, not the rewarding of clubs or operators who choose to affiliate with the SSA. Rather than being self-righteous about those who, "should," affiliate, we might rather ask the questions, "Why have they chosen not to do so, and how can we change their minds?" Al Trustee Soaring Society of America Foundation |
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BlueGliderGuy Is the Illini Glider club a chapter of SSA? If not, they should become one. This would then,once info is provided, get them listed on where to fly. Where to fly shows chapters and business members, but does not show non affiliated organizations. Is this the best way to grow the sport (and provide future members to the SSA)? To provide no information about glding sites that don't affiliate with the SSA? I think the SSA is suffering some confusion about what is good for the SSA (at least in the short run), and what is good for the sport. |
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I agree that the SSA should list all sites with soaring activities.
However, I also feel the SSA should ensure complete accuracy of the information it provides. I'd hate to drive out to some location all ready to take an intro ride or learn more about the sport only to find an abandoned building or office. How would SSA look to me then? There needs to be an "official" relationship between the site and SSA (not necessarily financial) so that anyone looking for information has some hope of it being correct and current. I suspect that some of the missing operations have not communicated their existence directly to the SSA. Like it or not, SSA is THE voice and presence of soaring in the USA. If a club or FBO refuses to acknowledge its existence by not being affiliated (maybe we need more than a business membership / club chapter), then the SSA cannot recommend that operation as a place to fly, since any information SSA may have about it does not come from the operator, but instead a third party or the rumor mill. I'm not trying to force SSA onto anyone, but I think there needs to be some type of affiliation so both organizations can recognize each other and share resources. -Tom |
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5Z wrote:
I agree that the SSA should list all sites with soaring activities. However, I also feel the SSA should ensure complete accuracy of the information it provides. I'd hate to drive out to some location all ready to take an intro ride or learn more about the sport only to find an abandoned building or office. How would SSA look to me then? There needs to be an "official" relationship between the site and SSA (not necessarily financial) so that anyone looking for information has some hope of it being correct and current. I suspect that some of the missing operations have not communicated their existence directly to the SSA. Like it or not, SSA is THE voice and presence of soaring in the USA. If a club or FBO refuses to acknowledge its existence by not being affiliated (maybe we need more than a business membership / club chapter), then the SSA cannot recommend that operation as a place to fly, since any information SSA may have about it does not come from the operator, but instead a third party or the rumor mill. I'm not trying to force SSA onto anyone, but I think there needs to be some type of affiliation so both organizations can recognize each other and share resources. -Tom I'm not suggesting that the SSA site directory does or should recommend sites any more than the phone book recommends numbers to call. Perhaps, as someone has proposed in this thread, it could indicate whether or not a site is affiliated with the SSA. If volunteer labor were available to do so, using Google will find most soaring web sites in any state very quickly. Assuming the site's own web site is up to date -- granted, a large assumption -- most of the relevant facts can easily be confirmed. A simple asterisk could be used to indicated that current information has not been verified. No matter how good our intentions, the information in the "Where to fly" section will become outdated fairly quickly, as was the case with its predecessor. There's just not enough available free labor to prevent that from happening. However, with appropriate disclaimers, highly useful information can and should still be provided, even at the risk of occasional error. |
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