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Charles Gray wrote in message
... Among his supporters, you're probably right-- but it will limit his ability to move out of safe areas where his supporters exist. With a small bounty, OBL might be able to live in many large cities, trusting in the people to hide him (or get lost in the crush). Also, a 50 mil reward allows the informant to move far away and have money for good security, somethign that will probably be a wise precaution... Then OBL's only safe areas may be Paris and San Francisco. -- Scott -------- Instead of vowing to fight the people who killed their fellow citizens, the Spanish decided to vote with al-Qaida on the war. A murdering terrorist organization said, "Jump!" and an entire country answered, "How high?" -- Ann Coulter |
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"Matt Wiser" wrote in message news:405b21da$1@bg2.... Personal preference: taken alive, put before a U.S. Military Tribunal for Violations of the Laws and Customs of War, convicted, and executed. Realistic expectation: "Killed while resisting capture." Either way, justice for 9/11, U.S.S. Cole, East Africa Embassies, Bali, Madrid, etc, is done. If we do take him alive, shoot him full of babble juice so we can go after OBL. Then put him on trial. After the trial, either have him hanged or shot: the needle in this case is too lenient. A friend of mine from college suggested building a gallows on the site of Ground Zero, and hanging any and all 9/11 plotters and facilitators there where the atrocity took place. Heads on pikes? |
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"Matt Wiser" wrote
A friend of mine from college suggested building a gallows on the site of Ground Zero, and hanging any and all 9/11 plotters and facilitators there where the atrocity took place. So the dead spirits can remain together with those they killed? |
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Stephen Harding wrote:
Guy Alcala wrote: The $25 million on OBL's head, and the $25 million on Zawahri's haven't talked up until now. I see the Congress has doubled Osama's bounty to $50 million. Gee, how likely is it that there's someone out there in the hills of Afghanistan saying to themselves, "A measly $25 million?!! Why, I wouldn't even consider betraying him for a nickel less than $50 mill!" I think it might actually send a more potent message to start *lowering* the reward! For people in the area, the ones in the know, there really isn't much difference between $50M, $25M, $10M, $5M. It's an unimaginably large amount of money. Raising the reward seems to imply the US is failing. Something even OBL haters might enjoy seeing. Lowering the reward sends a message that the US is growing more stronger and more confident in countering him. Maybe not, but it might have some positive psychological effect. SMH Could be...might make some fence sitters think, "Damn, I better make hay while the sun shines" -- -Gord. |
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote: "Matt Wiser" wrote in message news:405b21da$1@bg2.... Personal preference: taken alive, put before a U.S. Military Tribunal for Violations of the Laws and Customs of War, convicted, and executed. Realistic expectation: "Killed while resisting capture." Either way, justice for 9/11, U.S.S. Cole, East Africa Embassies, Bali, Madrid, etc, is done. If we do take him alive, shoot him full of babble juice so we can go after OBL. Then put him on trial. After the trial, either have him hanged or shot: the needle in this case is too lenient. A friend of mine from college suggested building a gallows on the site of Ground Zero, and hanging any and all 9/11 plotters and facilitators there where the atrocity took place. Heads on pikes? That was my friend's suggestion: and in the old days that sent a pretty strong message that if you got out of line, the price paid was in the extreme. I'd personally prefer giving them either the needle or the noose.And keep the burial site secret: no turning a grave site into a shrine for those who might grieve for the deceased. Posted via www.My-Newsgroups.com - web to news gateway for usenet access! |
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In article 405c50d2@bg2., "Matt Wiser"
wrote: "Tarver Engineering" wrote: "Matt Wiser" wrote in message news:405b21da$1@bg2.... Personal preference: taken alive, put before a U.S. Military Tribunal for Violations of the Laws and Customs of War, convicted, and executed. Realistic expectation: "Killed while resisting capture." Either way, justice for 9/11, U.S.S. Cole, East Africa Embassies, Bali, Madrid, etc, is done. If we do take him alive, shoot him full of babble juice so we can go after OBL. Then put him on trial. After the trial, either have him hanged or shot: the needle in this case is too lenient. A friend of mine from college suggested building a gallows on the site of Ground Zero, and hanging any and all 9/11 plotters and facilitators there where the atrocity took place. Heads on pikes? That was my friend's suggestion: and in the old days that sent a pretty strong message that if you got out of line, the price paid was in the extreme. I'd personally prefer giving them either the needle or the noose.And keep the burial site secret: no turning a grave site into a shrine for those who might grieve for the deceased. Posted via www.My-Newsgroups.com - web to news gateway for usenet access! And -- bury his body encased in a hog carcass! |
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Charles Gray wrote:
On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 04:53:49 GMT, Guy Alcala wrote: Dav1936531 wrote: The $25 million on OBL's head, and the $25 million on Zawahri's haven't talked up until now. I see the Congress has doubled Osama's bounty to $50 million. Gee, how likely is it that there's someone out there in the hills of Afghanistan saying to themselves, "A measly $25 million?!! Why, I wouldn't even consider betraying him for a nickel less than $50 mill!" Guy Among his supporters, you're probably right-- but it will limit his ability to move out of safe areas where his supporters exist. With a small bounty, OBL might be able to live in many large cities, trusting in the people to hide him (or get lost in the crush). You think $25 million is a SMALL bounty?!?! H'mmm. You're really Bill Gates, and I claim my 5 pounds ;-) Also, a 50 mil reward allows the informant to move far away and have money for good security, somethign that will probably be a wise precaution... Yeah, I can just see the average Afghan villager, eking out his existence tending his goats and his small plot of land, saying to himself, "I just don't see _how_ I could afford to move away and live elsewhere for _only_ $25 million; I'd need _at least_ another $25 million just for cabfare and tips" ;-) Guy |
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" wrote:
Stephen Harding wrote: Guy Alcala wrote: The $25 million on OBL's head, and the $25 million on Zawahri's haven't talked up until now. I see the Congress has doubled Osama's bounty to $50 million. Gee, how likely is it that there's someone out there in the hills of Afghanistan saying to themselves, "A measly $25 million?!! Why, I wouldn't even consider betraying him for a nickel less than $50 mill!" I think it might actually send a more potent message to start *lowering* the reward! For people in the area, the ones in the know, there really isn't much difference between $50M, $25M, $10M, $5M. It's an unimaginably large amount of money. Raising the reward seems to imply the US is failing. Something even OBL haters might enjoy seeing. Lowering the reward sends a message that the US is growing more stronger and more confident in countering him. Maybe not, but it might have some positive psychological effect. SMH Could be...might make some fence sitters think, "Damn, I better make hay while the sun shines" So, you're thinking a dutch auction? Guy |
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In article ,
Guy Alcala writes: Charles Gray wrote: On Fri, 19 Mar 2004 04:53:49 GMT, Guy Alcala wrote: Dav1936531 wrote: The $25 million on OBL's head, and the $25 million on Zawahri's haven't talked up until now. I see the Congress has doubled Osama's bounty to $50 million. Gee, how likely is it that there's someone out there in the hills of Afghanistan saying to themselves, "A measly $25 million?!! Why, I wouldn't even consider betraying him for a nickel less than $50 mill!" Guy Among his supporters, you're probably right-- but it will limit his ability to move out of safe areas where his supporters exist. With a small bounty, OBL might be able to live in many large cities, trusting in the people to hide him (or get lost in the crush). You think $25 million is a SMALL bounty?!?! H'mmm. You're really Bill Gates, and I claim my 5 pounds ;-) Actually, when you're dealing with, say, illiterate and immumerate peasant types (Such as are, unfortunately, still by far the most common folks you're going to meet in, say Afghanistan, or Pakistan, ore pretty much anywhere else in that corner of the world, even in the cities, it very quickly gets to the point where, by raising the reward, all you're doing it trading one unimaginably huge sum for another. 25 million, 50 million, even 1 million - it's all pretty much the same to folks who are still counting in 1, 2, several, many... (Actually, the biggest number that they seem to be able to get their minds around is 40-50.) I kind of like the idea of dropping hte reward, and publicizing that fact. Hit 'em in their vanity, you're almost sure to get a reaction. In fact, let's set up a scheduled rollback on the reward. For every two months that passes, we knock a million off of the reward. Then we can sturt in with the derision & humiliation. Start a campaign to cast ridicule on the Terrs and their cause, really do the Saturday Night Live thing (From back when it was funny) on them. (Look what Garret Morris did for Idi Amin, after all). Put David Hasselhof & Pamela Anderson in it, and we can guarantee a wide-ranging World-wide viewership. I think I'll go do lunch, now. -- Pete Stickney A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many bad measures. -- Daniel Webster |
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