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Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
john smith wrote: I carry slap-on vinyl sun shades. Stick em where you want em. One lets too much sun through, slap another over top of it. IIRC, I got mine from Sporty's. They were about the size of an automobile sun visor but of course they were nowhere near as thick. Here's a link to something quite similar: http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl....=9526&CATID=96 Better yet -- stop by your local auto supply store and get a roll of the stuff for about the same price or less. And you get to cut to fit whatever you want. |
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Kyle Boatright wrote:
Other than picking a course that isn't into the sun, or choosing a better time to fly, is there any cure for the sun in the eyes problem? I get my best results from the darkest flip-up plastic sunglasses (K-mart specials). Won't work if you don't wear glasses, though. I adjust them so that they shade everything above the dash. That way I can still see the instruments and avionics clearly. I also wear a baseball cap all the time. The visor is great, though it won't help when the sun is directly ahead and low. It also won't help if you're studying to be a rapper. ;-) George Patterson Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks. |
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Blanche Cohen wrote:
IIRC, I got mine from Sporty's. They were about the size of an automobile sun visor but of course they were nowhere near as thick. Here's a link to something quite similar: http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl....=9526&CATID=96 Better yet -- stop by your local auto supply store and get a roll of the stuff for about the same price or less. And you get to cut to fit whatever you want. Is it really the same stuff? I'm envisioning the window film that auto stores sell that normally is applied with soapy water and a squeegee. That's not the same product. This stuff can be applied and reapplied thousands of times using just your hand and a kleenex. OTOH, if they sell the same stuff, I sure as hell wouldn't buy it again from Sporty's. Everything they (Sporty's) sell is higher than hell, comparatively speaking. Their only saving grace is excellent service and selection. But price ain't their long suit.... -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN VE |
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Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Better yet -- stop by your local auto supply store and get a roll of the stuff for about the same price or less. And you get to cut to fit whatever you want. Is it really the same stuff? I'm envisioning the window film that auto stores sell that normally is applied with soapy water and a squeegee. That's not the same product. This stuff can be applied and reapplied thousands of times using just your hand and a kleenex. The window film at the auto stores is about 3-5 mil thick. And yes, I apply it by cleaning the window and slapping it on wherever. It's probably not as thick as the Sporty's stuff, but I've been using the same 2-3 pieces for about 4 years now with no problems. And every once in a while, I even clean the film. |
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On 2005-09-13, Kyle Boatright wrote:
Other than picking a course that isn't into the sun, or choosing a better time to fly, is there any cure for the sun in the eyes problem? On a recent flight to Oakland, I had to make do with flying an hour with my hand blocking the sun, or moving my head so the aircraft structure blocked the sun. Once in the Oakland area, I had to fly the ILS on a beautiful clear sunny evening - I couldn't see the airport until around 2 miles out. Everyone else (from the airlines to other light GA pilots) were telling ATC they couldn't see $FOO due to the sun being in their eyes. -- Dylan Smith, Castletown, Isle of Man Flying: http://www.dylansmith.net Frontier Elite Universe: http://www.alioth.net "Maintain thine airspeed, lest the ground come up and smite thee" |
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On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:31:26 -0700, "Bob Gardner"
wrote: I know of two fatal midairs in which sun-blindness was a contributory factor. No matter what the reported visibility, in those conditions it is essentially zero. Only solution other than changing course is to get some kind of opaque disc or sheet that can be stuck to the windscreen. Way back (how long ago will become apparent), I was landing on 25 at Phoenix near sundown. The controller kept telling me that the runway was dead ahead and counting down the miles, but I couldn't see it. I asked him for the localizer freq...but at that time PHX didn't have an ILS. I finally picked up the threshold markings when I was right on top of them. Scary. Ever tried a "blind" touchdown? Where you can't see the runway even over the threshold because of the sun? It can be done if you treat it as a "glassy water landing" like a seaplane, and set up the proper deck angle with power and fly the plane onto the runway (water). Bob Gardner "Kyle Boatright" wrote in message ... We had gone to the NC beach for the weekend, and had to bug out because of the hurricane threat. I was worried that even if the hurricane didn't head right for us, that the outlying winds might get strong enough to prevent us from departing. Despite the winds Saturday evening (15 G 25), we had a smooth departure and headed back towards Atlanta, getting a smooth ride and a bit of a tailwind for most of the flight. The one thing we didn't have in our favor was visibility. We were literally headed right into the setting sun for 2 hours. The haze didn't help. I felt a little better about traffic avoidance because we were using flight following, but I had a truly miserable time looking into the sun for the whole flight, despite my sunglasses. By the time we neared home, my pupils had contracted to the point that I was having real problems getting them to open up enough to see the panel, which is flat black. On this evening, it was sea of black with a bright orange ball perched on top, and the instruments barely visible. As soon as we changed course to enter the pattern at our home field, everything was better... Other than picking a course that isn't into the sun, or choosing a better time to fly, is there any cure for the sun in the eyes problem? -- Jay. (remove dashes for legal email address) |
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Ah, but landing -- tht is the real test. I'd just love to see you touch
down in that left or right "tack". :-) Nah - then I just close my eyes Tony -- Tony Roberts PP-ASEL VFR OTT Night Cessna 172H C-GICE |
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