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I Want to Fly Military Helicopters!
boB wrote:
Quite flying experience Bob, ever made it to Korea? That is where I am right now though heading back to stateside soon. The once glorious Cobra is on display here at Humphreys now. Koreans are still flying it though. I discourage that because I've written many letters of recommendations for great crew chiefs, who would make great pilots, (we already taught them to fly) but watched all the rejections because they were in a critical shortage MOS. Right now I believe all jobs in the military are critical and I don't think many Warrant packets will get approved until it gets better. That may be a long time. Bob, every other month about 60 to 70 enlisted soldiers are being picked up. That is still a good number. Last board however selected a great number of E-6s and only 2 E-3s. I will applying as an E-4 most likely and they still pick at least 15 SPCs everyboard. I am though an aircrew member, but just an armament guy and am sure that not in a shortage MOS, again I have heard from our medevac guys that they are in need of crew chiefs. |
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I Want to Fly Military Helicopters!
Not sure where the Cobra's based, but I can track it down if you're serious.
I'll be in Lakeland for Sun-n-Fun, followed by a few days in Orlando, then back in Key West. Let me know when you'll be near by. Bart Where is this Cobra for sale? Think I'll kick the wife and kids out, sell the house, buy the Cobra and a camper shell for my truck and call it good. BTW Bart, I'm gonna be down in FL in a couple weeks.. Wanna take me flying in your helicopter? |
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Korea was I Want to Fly Military Helicopters!
John Yasar wrote:
boB wrote: Quite flying experience Bob, ever made it to Korea? That is where I am right now though heading back to stateside soon. The once glorious Cobra is on display here at Humphreys now. Koreans are still flying it though. Hey John.... I feel for you over there. My first tour in Korea was in 1974, Camp Casey, 2ID flying Cobras. I know you still have those practice alerts still, especially with the tension up north. But just after I made PIC I was down in the Ville when the sirens sounded. Back then we didn't stop to get in a uniform, hell, most guys brought their beer with them. I ran straight to the airfield thinking it would be a roll call and that's that. Instead they threw me my logbook, told me a new Captain would be my front seat and they were arming the Cobras. I am SOOOO lucky. A North Korean gunboat was being chased up the coast and we were ordered to go sink it. Now how in the hell they thought we could even see a blacked out boat but the weather was too bad, we couldn't get over the mountains. If not for that I would be dead I think. All cocky and bold then, I realize now there was more than ego required. 2nd tour in 1981 with the 4/7 CAV when we were at that prison of a place, Camp Stanton. I don't know if it still exists but it was hell on earth. Later they moved to Uijongbu (sp) and Camp Stanley. Lost a wife after both tours. As it turns out, it was a good thing. I discourage that because I've written many letters of recommendations for great crew chiefs, who would make great pilots, (we already taught them to fly) but watched all the rejections because they were in a critical shortage MOS. Right now I believe all jobs in the military are critical and I don't think many Warrant packets will get approved until it gets better. That may be a long time. Bob, every other month about 60 to 70 enlisted soldiers are being picked up. That is still a good number. Last board however selected a great number of E-6s and only 2 E-3s. I will applying as an E-4 most likely and they still pick at least 15 SPCs everyboard. I am though an aircrew member, but just an armament guy and am sure that not in a shortage MOS, again I have heard from our medevac guys that they are in need of crew chiefs. That is great.... maybe there were more applications for Warrant when I was in but there were many packets disapproved, and they were good soldiers. Take care over there..... -- boB Wing 70 U.S. Army Aviation (retired) Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK) |
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I Want to Fly Military Helicopters!
John Yasar wrote: I am though an aircrew member, but just an armament guy and am sure that not in a shortage MOS, again I have heard from our medevac guys that they are in need of crew chiefs. 12 birds out here, 24 crew chiefs and a supervisor, only 6 flight medics though... you can bet your balls they're picking up everyone and their uncle from our unit to be warrants, they need pilots more than they need brand new 15Ts coming out of AIT. We just got an E3 picked up out of flight ops last month, an E5 fueler the month before, and maybe 5 or 6 guys in the last 6 months from various positions. When I first got in, they almost wouldn't give me enlisted aviation because the slots were so full... ended up waiting 4 months just for a slot. Qualified people willing to go through the BS to be a warrant, now thats another story.... Enlisted to warrant seems to be the best path in my eyes; work hard and you'll have every warrant and RLO in the unit writing sparkling recommendations in a heartbeat. -Mike |
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I Want to Fly Military Helicopters!
Enlisted to warrant seems to be the best path in my eyes; work hard and you'll have every warrant and RLO in the unit writing sparkling recommendations in a heartbeat. -Mike If it's changed that much since I was in and more pilots are needed I would think a recruiter would be happy to set a person up for flight school. I don't understand how going enlisted first would be a better road than going straight to flight school after basic training. -- boB Wing 70 U.S. Army Aviation (retired) Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK) |
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Korea was I Want to Fly Military Helicopters!
Bob, in my opinion, not much action left here in Korea, they say they
can defend themselves now. Most of the exercises we participate, us AVIM guys sit in tents all day and play PSP. Stanley already moved a lot of units down to Humphreys, I spent a month in Stanley last year. Yongsan is coming down to Humphreys also, Koreans wants Yongsan under their control I guess. There will still be Army posts, few but large. Humphreys is expected to expand larger than Ft. Hood. |
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Korea was I Want to Fly Military Helicopters!
John Yasar wrote:
Bob, in my opinion, not much action left here in Korea, they say they can defend themselves now. Most of the exercises we participate, us AVIM guys sit in tents all day and play PSP. Stanley already moved a lot of units down to Humphreys, I spent a month in Stanley last year. Yongsan is coming down to Humphreys also, Koreans wants Yongsan under their control I guess. There will still be Army posts, few but large. Humphreys is expected to expand larger than Ft. Hood. Damn.... It's sure changed a lot. I wouldn't recognize it now but what am I saying???? I don't ever want to see it again. It seems you are doing OK but I know you would come home tomorrow if you could..... Take care...... One day when I dig my pictures out I'll put the Korea ones on a web site somewhere. It'll probably give you a big laugh...... -- boB Wing 70 U.S. Army Aviation (retired) Central Texas - 5NM West of Gray Army Airfield (KGRK) |
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Korea was I Want to Fly Military Helicopters!
boB wrote:
Take care...... One day when I dig my pictures out I'll put the Korea ones on a web site somewhere. It'll probably give you a big laugh...... Haha.... Kamsa Hamidaaaa.... |
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John Yasar wrote: boB wrote: Warrant Officer would be best. Regular Officers, as we called them, only flew for a few years before they were assigned to non-flying positions. Bob you are right, I offered the option just because some people like the glory of being a line officer, regular officer, whatever you call them. I agree with you because for the first time in my life I have seen a O3 quitting her duties (S3) to go warrant. Flying was a passion for her that she went backwards in the promotion table. A warants job is TO FLY, FLY, FLY, yes they have some additional duties such as fire prevention officer, safety officer, but those are side duties not their job that it prevents them from flying actively. If the recruiter tells you flight school is an option have him put it in writing and go for it. You will never regret it. If you do see a recruiter let us know how it turns out. So much crap those recruiters give to kids when they want to go civilian to warrant, hard to find one recruiter that would work with you for that specific route. I always suggest getting in the Army as enlisted and then applying Warrant as the best route but it has its disadvantages also. Ok, so here's my update. I've been talking to my local recruiter and he seems really helpful. He tells me that if this is what I want to do that he will put all the "foot work" in to help me that's necessary (scheduling physicals and tests, getting my application together, etc.). It seems like he's done his homework, talking to various people who have gone high school to warrant/pilot and seems to think there is a pretty solid chance I will get in. I am told that I don't have to sign anything until I am actually accepted into the program, which seems like a major plus to me. I haven't had anything to make me suspicious so far, and everything seems to be exactly as I would have hoped. Maybe it seems a little too perfect. What might he not be telling me, or is it as good as it seems?? Thanks for all your advice. |
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I Want to Fly Military Helicopters!
And one more thing: do I need to do anything particular to get in shape
(physically or mentally) for my upcoming physicals and tests? |
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