T-33 Down

Costly and needing to be done on a much more than annual (IIRC 45 day )
cycle.

Any ex egress types on here who can remember the inspection interval?
--
Les
F-4C(WW),D,E,G(WW)/AC-130A/MC-130E EWO (ret)


"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
...
"Les Matheson" wrote:

IIRC the issue with ejection seats is that they must be inspected
regularly,
as the military specs call for. This is a very expensive proposition and
there are few shops that do it. If they can't be inspected and
certified,
the FAA requires they be inerted.

Thanks Les...I was just going to ask why this requirement was
made.

But isn't that just as any other system requirement?...the a/c
must have to be maintained and inspected right?. Seems to me that
the FAA is merely giving the owners an 'out' so as to circumvent
a very costly inspection right?.
--

-Gord.

"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
I understand that ejection seats 'are' allowed but that they
'must' be inspected and maintained in strict accordance with
certain rules. This is a 'very' costly procedure and can only be
performed by a very few qualified companies. Therefore, the FAA
allows civvy owners to remove them if desired. If you want the
protection then you pay the piper.

Seems quite reasonable to me.

Or am I in error?
--

-Gord.


Mary had an interesting post on this about a year ago. It's not just
repacking the silk but also replacing the pyros, which are all specific
parts for each seat model and time limited.


IIRC some pyros weren't used in large enoough numbers to continue to
manufacture them for sensible prices.




I've heard of seat overhauls here at $US10-15K apiece. At those
prices, I'd punch out anyway - just to get my money's worth.



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Cheers


Dave Kearton (it was a joke dammit)

"Dave Kearton"
wrote:




"Gord Beaman" wrote in message
I understand that ejection seats 'are' allowed but that they
'must' be inspected and maintained in strict accordance with
certain rules. This is a 'very' costly procedure and can only be
performed by a very few qualified companies. Therefore, the FAA
allows civvy owners to remove them if desired. If you want the
protection then you pay the piper.

Seems quite reasonable to me.

Or am I in error?
--

-Gord.


Mary had an interesting post on this about a year ago. It's not just
repacking the silk but also replacing the pyros, which are all specific
parts for each seat model and time limited.


IIRC some pyros weren't used in large enoough numbers to continue to
manufacture them for sensible prices.




I've heard of seat overhauls here at $US10-15K apiece. At those
prices, I'd punch out anyway - just to get my money's worth.

...Great, now we got the real skinny...I was just objecting to
reading "Ejection seats aren't allowed in privately owned a/c".

That isn't true at all...
--

-Gord.

The NTSB has released its preliminary report on the T-33 crash that
killed pilot Dan Lavigna near Santa Clarita, California, on Nov. 2.
Witnesses observed the plane roll over and dive vertically into the
ground at the conclusion of a 180 degree turn. Most said the loud
whine of the engine attracted their attention.

http://www.ntsb.gov/NTSB/brief.asp?e...12X01888&key=1

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Paul Hirose
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"Les Matheson" wrote:

Costly and needing to be done on a much more than annual (IIRC 45 day )
cycle.

Any ex egress types on here who can remember the inspection interval?


I will see if I can find out.

As far as the certification goes It's not just irritating paperwork. A
friend of mine un-safed the seat in a B-57 and the det cord on the
canopy blew, but fortunately not the seat.

As it was the end of three fruitless days (this was pre 9-11) of
messing around he decided to blow town right there and then and made
for the terminal, boots, flightsuit still on. The sniffer machine at
security went nuts because he stank of det-cord and there was then
loads of explaining as to why someone was wearing a flightsuit, stank
of explosives and was covered in bleeding flesh-wounds inflicted by
flying Perspex shrapnel.


Just remember - visor down before you unsafe the seat.

funkraum wrote:

As it was the end of three fruitless days (this was pre 9-11) of
messing around he decided to blow town right there and then and made
for the terminal, boots, flightsuit still on. The sniffer machine at
security went nuts because he stank of det-cord and there was then
loads of explaining as to why someone was wearing a flightsuit, stank
of explosives and was covered in bleeding flesh-wounds inflicted by
flying Perspex shrapnel.

Nice hangar flying tale but it falls apart when the "pre 9-11" sniffer
machine went off. Which airport had sniffer machines at passenger
screening points at all much less used them to sniff passenger clothing
or carryon baggage?

Rick

In article k.net,
Rick wrote:

l.

Nice hangar flying tale but it falls apart when the "pre 9-11" sniffer
machine went off. Which airport had sniffer machines at passenger
screening points at all much less used them to sniff passenger clothing
or carryon baggage?

A lot of airports were using the "sniffer" prior to 9-11.

--
Dale L. Falk

There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing around with airplanes.

http://home.gci.net/~sncdfalk/flying.html

Rick wrote:

Nice hangar flying tale but it falls apart when the "pre 9-11" sniffer
machine went off. Which airport had sniffer machines at passenger
screening points at all much less used them to sniff passenger
clothing or carryon baggage?

I have very definite memories of having my bags swabbed and sniffed for
explosives at National Airport long before September 2001.

--
Tom Schoene Replace "invalid" with "net" to e-mail
"If brave men and women never died, there would be nothing
special about bravery." -- Andy Rooney (attributed)

Rick wrote:
funkraum wrote:

Nice hangar flying tale but it falls apart when the "pre 9-11" sniffer
machine went off. Which airport had sniffer machines at passenger
screening points at all much less used them to sniff passenger clothing
or carryon baggage?


Just checked the date: It was July 2001