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#41
August 26th 03, 05:29 AM
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G.R. Patterson, what do you want from me?
Admitting that I was in the German army? I thing it's more a statement of public service! (Admitting sounds like I am guilty of something.) Ok, I am guilty - I served; did you? And I live in Florida for 14 years now you troll. And I am a dual citizen - do you have problem with that? Give it a rest. You can't concentrate on the facts anyways. Fly your old junker and be happy... "RDA" wrote in message et... "G.R. Patterson III" wrote in message ... Satellite wrote: Sorry for my comment, but can't hold back: You seem to be doing real well with that lure. What sort of trolling motor are you using? George Patterson Brute force has an elegance all its own. Remember, he ain't fum nowheres aroun' hyear..... Satellite the Troll admitted in an earlier post that: "I was an aircraft mechanic and helicopter mechanic in the German Army " Wonder what kind of visa he's here on....because Satellite the Troll admitted in an earlier post that: "I fly in Florida..." Makes ya wanna go "Hmmmmmmm". 
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#42
August 26th 03, 01:51 PM
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"Satellite" wrote
snip Give it a rest. You can't concentrate on the facts anyways. Fly your old junker and be happy... Speaking of old junkers... http://xcski.com/gallery/osh_prop_warbirds/112_ju52_1 -- Montblack
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#43
August 26th 03, 02:56 PM
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Satellite wrote: G.R. Patterson, what do you want from me? Well, for starters, I'd prefer that you only attribute things to me which I actually said. George Patterson Brute force has an elegance all its own.
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#44
August 27th 03, 01:46 AM
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Sorry for feeding the trolls..
BUT I WILL TAKE A TIGER ANY DAY over a 172.. even a NEW one.. And Ive got enough time in both types to make that decision. Dave PPSEL Satellite wrote: Sorry for my comment, but can't hold back: How do you come up with a ridiculous price like that. Your plane is an old pile of junk. Compare it to a 1997 to 1999 Cessna 172! They are available from $75000 and up... Look for yourself www.aso.com And you get recent avionics, lower time, nice paint, nice interior, lower insurance, ad a new engine and you are set... Your plane... $76000...Ha, what a joke... "Flynn" wrote in message news:YpN1b.235442$o%2.106915@sccrnsc02... Well I've taken the new plane plunge and put a deposit down on a new SR22 for delivery in late Sept. My wife says I can't have 2 airplanes so the Tiger's for sale. Latest info is at http://www.ipilot.com/classifieds/ad...&cid=-1&fuid=0 I'm going to take some new pic's today and post them there. Contact info if interested is also at the above site. Patrick Flynn Sammamish, WA 79 Tiger N4543A KRNT
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#45
August 27th 03, 12:47 PM
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What planet is this guy from?
Lower insurance? With what underwriter? I want quotes! What hull coverage? $1M smooth? Bull****. And take a look at the AD list for the "New Cessnas", and compare that to the AD list for an "old piece of **** Tiger" whilst you are at it. Newer is better? Ask some of the Cirrus owners that have had more time in warrantee repair than hours in the air. Come to think of it, has this guy EVER been to OSH or Sun-n-Fun? I have seen more beautiful restored "pieces of ****" than some of the "Newer is better" models. Interior restoration is cheap. Not sure why you would pay a premium for that... I can get Comforfoam for $16/sheet and get new covers from Airtex for a few hundred bucks that look and feel beauiful. A monkey could restore an interior. Oh yeah, that's right, this guy is from Europe (didn't we have to bail them out TWICE, three times if you count the Cold War???) I have seen "Newer is Better" with very run out and abused motors that are just not worth the cash. I for one am not convinced "Newer is Better". And NO ONE knows how the Centurian or SMA turbodiesels will work out. What if we find the TBO is only 1000 hours? The Centurian is "disposable", i.e. NOT overhaulable. The SMA is ridiculously expensive (I thought French industry was subsidized by the socialist governments over there?) Sounds like another piece of Eurotrash that moved across the pond where the "grass is greener". Seen many of this ilk in EUCOM. Why move to the States if they are so much smarter and better than us old hot-rodders fixin' up "pieces of ****"??? Mark "Piece of **** Driver" Mueller Tiger N1533R "Satellite" wrote in message om... Sorry for my comment, but can't hold back: How do you come up with a ridiculous price like that. Your plane is an old pile of junk. Compare it to a 1997 to 1999 Cessna 172! They are available from $75000 and up... Look for yourself www.aso.com And you get recent avionics, lower time, nice paint, nice interior, lower insurance, ad a new engine and you are set... Your plane... $76000...Ha, what a joke... "Flynn" wrote in message news:YpN1b.235442$o%2.106915@sccrnsc02... Well I've taken the new plane plunge and put a deposit down on a new SR22 for delivery in late Sept. My wife says I can't have 2 airplanes so the Tiger's for sale. Latest info is at http://www.ipilot.com/classifieds/ad...&cid=-1&fuid=0 I'm going to take some new pic's today and post them there. Contact info if interested is also at the above site. Patrick Flynn Sammamish, WA 79 Tiger N4543A KRNT
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#47
August 28th 03, 04:52 AM
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The Cheetah that I was flying was worth about $45k (new engine & prop).
Then it went in for 3 months for a complete paint job, replacement of plastic parts, new windshield, and avionics upgrades and now it is worth closer to $70k. By "worth" I mean what people have offered, unsolicted, to buy it. "Mike Noel" wrote in message ... While we are on the subject of Tigers, did anyone else notice the article in Flying recently about the Tiger driver in the Bay area. The author made a statement that a 1978 Tiger would go for about $49,500. I assume he was assuming an average Tiger. I think half of the people on this newsgroup would be camping overnight to be first in line to buy an average Tiger for that price. The best price I've seen recently was $62K for a 'Chiger' upgrade that included a Tiger spar. Does anyone here think that $49,500 is a realistic price? -- Regards, Mike "Mark T. Mueller" wrote in message ... What planet is this guy from? Lower insurance? With what underwriter? I want quotes! What hull coverage? $1M smooth? Bull****. And take a look at the AD list for the "New Cessnas", and compare that to the AD list for an "old piece of **** Tiger" whilst you are at it. Newer is better? Ask some of the Cirrus owners that have had more time in warrantee repair than hours in the air. Come to think of it, has this guy EVER been to OSH or Sun-n-Fun? I have seen more beautiful restored "pieces of ****" than some of the "Newer is better" models. Interior restoration is cheap. Not sure why you would pay a premium for that... I can get Comforfoam for $16/sheet and get new covers from Airtex for a few hundred bucks that look and feel beauiful. A monkey could restore an interior. Oh yeah, that's right, this guy is from Europe (didn't we have to bail them out TWICE, three times if you count the Cold War???) I have seen "Newer is Better" with very run out and abused motors that are just not worth the cash. I for one am not convinced "Newer is Better". And NO ONE knows how the Centurian or SMA turbodiesels will work out. What if we find the TBO is only 1000 hours? The Centurian is "disposable", i.e. NOT overhaulable. The SMA is ridiculously expensive (I thought French industry was subsidized by the socialist governments over there?) Sounds like another piece of Eurotrash that moved across the pond where the "grass is greener". Seen many of this ilk in EUCOM. Why move to the States if they are so much smarter and better than us old hot-rodders fixin' up "pieces of ****"??? Mark "Piece of **** Driver" Mueller Tiger N1533R "Satellite" wrote in message om... Sorry for my comment, but can't hold back: How do you come up with a ridiculous price like that. Your plane is an old pile of junk. Compare it to a 1997 to 1999 Cessna 172! They are available from $75000 and up... Look for yourself www.aso.com And you get recent avionics, lower time, nice paint, nice interior, lower insurance, ad a new engine and you are set... Your plane... $76000...Ha, what a joke... "Flynn" wrote in message news:YpN1b.235442$o%2.106915@sccrnsc02... Well I've taken the new plane plunge and put a deposit down on a new SR22 for delivery in late Sept. My wife says I can't have 2 airplanes so the Tiger's for sale. Latest info is at http://www.ipilot.com/classifieds/ad...&cid=-1&fuid=0 I'm going to take some new pic's today and post them there. Contact info if interested is also at the above site. Patrick Flynn Sammamish, WA 79 Tiger N4543A KRNT
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#48
August 28th 03, 11:41 AM
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I don't think you will find a decent one in that price range. Maybe a "fire
sale" or the owner's estate is liquidating or there is some significant damage history. I haven't seen a quality Tiger in that price range in several years... A $49K Tiger today will probably require at least $20K in work to bring it up to "decent" shape, more if you want a reliable IFR panel (a LOT have crappy Narco stacks, IMHO I wouldn't risk my life in IMC with Narco equipment, too many bad experiences.) "Mike Noel" wrote in message ... While we are on the subject of Tigers, did anyone else notice the article in Flying recently about the Tiger driver in the Bay area. The author made a statement that a 1978 Tiger would go for about $49,500. I assume he was assuming an average Tiger. I think half of the people on this newsgroup would be camping overnight to be first in line to buy an average Tiger for that price. The best price I've seen recently was $62K for a 'Chiger' upgrade that included a Tiger spar. Does anyone here think that $49,500 is a realistic price? -- Regards, Mike "Mark T. Mueller" wrote in message ... What planet is this guy from? Lower insurance? With what underwriter? I want quotes! What hull coverage? $1M smooth? Bull****. And take a look at the AD list for the "New Cessnas", and compare that to the AD list for an "old piece of **** Tiger" whilst you are at it. Newer is better? Ask some of the Cirrus owners that have had more time in warrantee repair than hours in the air. Come to think of it, has this guy EVER been to OSH or Sun-n-Fun? I have seen more beautiful restored "pieces of ****" than some of the "Newer is better" models. Interior restoration is cheap. Not sure why you would pay a premium for that... I can get Comforfoam for $16/sheet and get new covers from Airtex for a few hundred bucks that look and feel beauiful. A monkey could restore an interior. Oh yeah, that's right, this guy is from Europe (didn't we have to bail them out TWICE, three times if you count the Cold War???) I have seen "Newer is Better" with very run out and abused motors that are just not worth the cash. I for one am not convinced "Newer is Better". And NO ONE knows how the Centurian or SMA turbodiesels will work out. What if we find the TBO is only 1000 hours? The Centurian is "disposable", i.e. NOT overhaulable. The SMA is ridiculously expensive (I thought French industry was subsidized by the socialist governments over there?) Sounds like another piece of Eurotrash that moved across the pond where the "grass is greener". Seen many of this ilk in EUCOM. Why move to the States if they are so much smarter and better than us old hot-rodders fixin' up "pieces of ****"??? Mark "Piece of **** Driver" Mueller Tiger N1533R "Satellite" wrote in message om... Sorry for my comment, but can't hold back: How do you come up with a ridiculous price like that. Your plane is an old pile of junk. Compare it to a 1997 to 1999 Cessna 172! They are available from $75000 and up... Look for yourself www.aso.com And you get recent avionics, lower time, nice paint, nice interior, lower insurance, ad a new engine and you are set... Your plane... $76000...Ha, what a joke... "Flynn" wrote in message news:YpN1b.235442$o%2.106915@sccrnsc02... Well I've taken the new plane plunge and put a deposit down on a new SR22 for delivery in late Sept. My wife says I can't have 2 airplanes so the Tiger's for sale. Latest info is at http://www.ipilot.com/classifieds/ad...&cid=-1&fuid=0 I'm going to take some new pic's today and post them there. Contact info if interested is also at the above site. Patrick Flynn Sammamish, WA 79 Tiger N4543A KRNT
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#49
August 28th 03, 04:50 PM
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Not for something I'd want. It seems like every time I read an article about
some older plane, they have really low values they're quoting. It's like they went and dug out their 5 - 10 yr old copy of Aviation Consumer. What's the point if you find a bargain price and have to pay $20k to get it up to snuff? "Mike Noel" wrote in message ... Does anyone here think that $49,500 is a realistic price?
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#50
September 10th 03, 07:29 AM
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Sold the Tiger today. Interest was very high so it was priced well.
"Roger Tracy" wrote in message .. . Not for something I'd want. It seems like every time I read an article about some older plane, they have really low values they're quoting. It's like they went and dug out their 5 - 10 yr old copy of Aviation Consumer. What's the point if you find a bargain price and have to pay $20k to get it up to snuff? "Mike Noel" wrote in message ... Does anyone here think that $49,500 is a realistic price?
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