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Old August 7th 08, 10:59 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Sam Spade
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Default Cancelling IFR in Bravo airspace

Steven P. McNicoll wrote:
Sam Spade wrote:

In any case, my interptretation of when I am legally on top may differ
from your's. The typical kee-jerk response is to "please the
controller" and report on top when just breaking out in the clear.



You're on top when you're in conditions suitable for VFR flight. You're not
on top when you break out into the sunshine, you have to be at least 1000
feet above that cloud.


My point exactly.
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Old August 7th 08, 11:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Newps
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Default Cancelling IFR in Bravo airspace

Sam Spade wrote:
Terence Wilson wrote:
On a few occasions I have filed a departure procedure to a nearby
intersection just to get on top (comments section reads "IFR to VFR on
top"). After breaking out of the clouds and advising ATC of the bases
and tops, I usually cancel IFR and proceed "own nav" with flight
following. Which brings me to my question, if I cancel inside Bravo
airspace do I have an implicit clearance because I got there under IFR
in the first place, or is it common practice for ATC to give an
explicit clearance?

I ask because I'm a new instrument rated pilot and I'm pretty sure
both scenarios have happened to me recently. Thanks in advance.


You have no idea of what ATC needs to do with you if you cancel on an
IFR climnb to on-top. So, keep it simple, and stay with the IFR
clearance until either above or otherwise clear of the Class B airspace.



Hogwash. Cancelling IFR only makes ATC's life easier. Less separation
is required. You do not need to prenegotiate....."Ah, approach, I'll
cancel if you give me clearance out of the class B."
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Old August 7th 08, 11:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Bob F.[_2_]
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Default Cancelling IFR in Bravo airspace




"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message
m...
Mark Hansen wrote:

My gosh, Steven. The OP said he was canceling while inside Class B and
you said he needed to be 1000' above the clouds. Now because you have
been caught making a mistake, you must try to twist the discussion
around to obfuscate the fact.


I believe I said I might have lost track of the thread.


This might be because no one believed it...a controller...lost track?
Doesn't say a lot about competency.

Regards, BobF.

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Old August 7th 08, 11:35 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr
Steven P. McNicoll[_2_]
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Default Cancelling IFR in Bravo airspace

Bob F. wrote:

This might be because no one believed it...a controller...lost track?
Doesn't say a lot about competency.


You're free to believe whatever you choose.


 




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