What next?

On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 22:53:40 -0000, "Tobeon" wrote:

Exactly! The first time I went solo, he just said "okay you can go on your
own now" I thought I miss heard him for a min! And when I fully realised it
was such a fantastic surprise. An amazing feeling
....
and on a never note. my first solo I did my best landing ever, and never
since have I been able to make such a perfect landing
(the next 2 solo flights I made very sloppy landings! Eek!)

Scheduled to solo? Now that ruins all the fun of wondering and waiting.

I'll agree in spades. I'd gotten all the launch failures, spin checks
etc signed off. The instructor had me do a flight on our ASK-21 with
altimeter and ASI covered and the yaw string stuck to the canopy. I
got through that without much comment and I was thinking as we went
back on the winch queue that he was probably going to do that again
because the covers were still on. Suddenly, when we got to the head of
the queue, he told me to do this one by myself, took the covers off
the panel and did up his straps.

Its certainly a flight you'll never forget, right up there with your
first single seat flight, 5th solo for me, and first cross country.
This was a year later - Gransden Lodge to Rattlesden in a Junior under
blue conditions and *very* slow.

--
martin@ : Martin Gregorie
gregorie : Harlow, UK
demon :
co : Zappa fan & glider pilot
uk :

BMacLean wrote:

You can never again have a first solo so savor it.

Barb


I was thinking that in some way you can experience it again
by becoming instructor and sending your student(s) solo, this
is one of the reasons for which I just did it in september.
To recent to already have some student solo, but had a
licensed pilot have his first solo winch launch. Not the same
thing, but we both liked it, for me also it was a first
something: my first signoff.

Omigosh, I forgot about that experience. I think it's scarier sending
someone else up on their first solo than doing your own.

Barb

"Robert Ehrlich" wrote in message
...
BMacLean wrote:

You can never again have a first solo so savor it.

Barb


I was thinking that in some way you can experience it again
by becoming instructor and sending your student(s) solo, this
is one of the reasons for which I just did it in september.
To recent to already have some student solo, but had a
licensed pilot have his first solo winch launch. Not the same
thing, but we both liked it, for me also it was a first
something: my first signoff.

In article ,
ISoar wrote:
I'm scheduled to Solo this weekend (yipeee!) and am thinking about
whats next. Plan was to train at a FBO then join a club. Question is
when to transition? I know theres going to be more lessons before I
take the FAA license test. FBO advantage is familiar aircraft,
airfield, soaring conditions, instructor. Only disadvantage is price.
When would be the best time to transition? When would be the
stupidest?

In the US, for gliders I really don't see anything after solo
which needs to be trained (except maybe heavy crosswinds and
precision landings, since the CFIG can solo you on a calm
day at a long runway safely and put these restrictions
on your solo).

In gliders, unlike power planes, if you've soloed, you've
done the vast majority of dual flight required for US license.
What would a CFIG teach post solo that wasn't required for
safety before solo?

In power planes you'd need X-C, Instrument time, night
flight, and control tower solo practice, almost all of
which can be done safely post-solo. In gliders none of
this is mandatory (whether you agree with these
regs is another thread).

I'd recommend you stick with it at your current place.
A little extra money is worth it to finish up quickly
before rust sets in...

And if you've got an instructor to solo you,
you're pretty sure he's not just pulling hard
on your teets (milking you)... ;-

On the other hand, if the commercial op is 4x as
expensive, and this is getting you flying once
a month instead of once a week...then that
may be a different story...

In article ,
Robert Ehrlich wrote:
BMacLean wrote:

Omigosh, I forgot about that experience. I think it's scarier sending
someone else up on their first solo than doing your own.


Of course the wind sock is limp when you send them up, and right
after takeoff it's 90 degrees to the runway 12 gusting 20.
My Lord is a Playful and Mischievious God ;-P

BMacLean wrote:

Omigosh, I forgot about that experience. I think it's scarier sending
someone else up on their first solo than doing your own.

It was not scary when I did my own, so I hope it won't be scary when
I would sending my first student solo, neither for me nor for him. It
is the instructor's job to do so that it is not scary for the student.
Well this is a wish, we will see what the reality will be.

Yeah, "You're going to solo next Saturday" must be something new they're
trying.

My first IP said, "Stop here at Ops and let me out." "Sir?" "You heard
me, and no funny stuff, once around and full stop, bring it back here
and park it." Fully clothed dunk in the swimming pool.

Soloing a jet was next, "If you cock the nosewheel again, I'm going to
personally come out there and beat the crap out of you." Colorful scarf
to wear around your neck. Every Man a Tiger.

Then a little Bell Mash chopper, "Show me what you did just now and
you'll be fine."

Then I ground-looped a C-47. Never did get used to those taildraggewrs.

You know the rest of the story.

Can't quit.

The first one still shines the brightest.

BJ








You remember them all but the first

"F.L. Whiteley" wrote:

I was simply told not to get out of the glider and sent solo on the next
tow. A bit of a surprise, but they do know when you're ready.

Frank

"Tobeon" wrote in message
.. .
Exactly! The first time I went solo, he just said "okay you can go on
your
own now" I thought I miss heard him for a min! And when I fully realised
it
was such a fantastic surprise. An amazing feeling
....
and on a never note. my first solo I did my best landing ever, and never
since have I been able to make such a perfect landing
(the next 2 solo flights I made very sloppy landings! Eek!)

Scheduled to solo? Now that ruins all the fun of wondering and waiting.

Don't get on me for my choice of words, Robert. The term "scary" was just
being girly. You know, you just try to have a pleasant conversation and
maybe a little fun on this newsgroup and you get chastised. Everybody's got
to take the opportunity to show their "superiority." So you want to be
serious...I perhaps invest too much personally in my students and I want
them to do so well and have such a good experience that I feel it deeply.
My students know I care but maybe not how much. They're just acutely aware
that I have the utmost confidence in them and by solo they have it in
themselves. Thanks, Mark. You get my drift. (No windsock pun intended.)

Barb

"Robert Ehrlich" wrote in message
...
BMacLean wrote:

Omigosh, I forgot about that experience. I think it's scarier sending
someone else up on their first solo than doing your own.

It was not scary when I did my own, so I hope it won't be scary when
I would sending my first student solo, neither for me nor for him. It
is the instructor's job to do so that it is not scary for the student.
Well this is a wish, we will see what the reality will be.

(ISoar) wrote in message . com...
I'm scheduled to Solo this weekend (yipeee!) and am thinking about
whats next. Plan was to train at a FBO then join a club. Question is
when to transition? I know theres going to be more lessons before I
take the FAA license test. FBO advantage is familiar aircraft,
airfield, soaring conditions, instructor. Only disadvantage is price.
When would be the best time to transition? When would be the
stupidest?

Stick with the operation that has the resources to assist and guide
you
at a rate that matches your time and enthusiasm. If your prospective
club has plenty of resources- great. BUT if they are small and
stretched, your progress may slow.
Also- working with an instructor who understands you and you
understand- PRICELESS!
Also remember there is something to be learned from each style of
training.
#1 Have Fun! First solo is one of the most memorable moments in our
lives.
UH

On 6 Nov 2003 12:11:59 -0700, (Mark James Boyd)
wrote:

In article ,

What would a CFIG teach post solo that wasn't required for
safety before solo?

How to fly a modern aircraft. I think moving from a 2-33 to a Grob is
going to be an eye-opener.


I'd recommend you stick with it at your current place.
A little extra money is worth it to finish up quickly
before rust sets in...

My initial conclusion also. Somtimes it's nice to see what the 'net
drug in on questsions where I know I don't know much.