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Old September 9th 03, 07:27 AM
John Mullen
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Anyone else noticed the odd coincidence of the NYC atrocity with Amerikkka's
cynical destruction of Chile's elected government to be replaced by military
dictatorship?

John


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Old September 9th 03, 07:45 AM
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John Mullen wrote:

Anyone else noticed the odd coincidence of the NYC atrocity with Amerikkka's
cynical destruction of Chile's elected government to be replaced by military
dictatorship?


nope, only the plaintive cry of a loon drifting across the water.

redc1c4,
now, back to your village with you.
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Old September 9th 03, 07:54 AM
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"John Mullen" wrote in message
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Anyone else noticed the odd coincidence of the NYC atrocity with

Amerikkka's
cynical destruction of Chile's elected government to be replaced by

military
dictatorship?

John



Anybody else noticed how trolls cant spell America

Keith


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Old September 9th 03, 04:43 PM
John Mullen
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"John Mullen" wrote in message
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Anyone else noticed the odd coincidence of the NYC atrocity with

Amerikkka's
cynical destruction of Chile's elected government to be replaced by

military
dictatorship?

John



Anybody else noticed how trolls cant spell America

Keith



Anybody else noticed how criticising the USA (proper name of country)
automatically makes one a troll on this medium? At least according to some.

As you might say yourself, irrelevant ad hom duly noted.

John


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Old September 9th 03, 05:48 PM
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Anybody else noticed how criticising the USA (proper name of country)
automatically makes one a troll on this medium? At least according to some.


No, John - to earn troll status you just have to.... well, you know - start by
asking a rhetorical question in as inflammitory a way as possible, then act
wounded when someone busts you on it. That generally does it.

Gordon
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Old September 9th 03, 05:55 PM
John Mullen
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"Gordon" wrote in message
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Anybody else noticed how criticising the USA (proper name of country)
automatically makes one a troll on this medium? At least according to

some.

No, John - to earn troll status you just have to.... well, you know -

start by
asking a rhetorical question in as inflammitory a way as possible, then

act
wounded when someone busts you on it. That generally does it.

Gordon


Aha. Got it. Which part of my post did you find inflammatory? And where did
I act wounded? Assuming that you agree with Keith's assertion that I was
trolling that is, you don't quite make that clear!

John


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Old September 9th 03, 06:41 PM
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Aha. Got it. Which part of my post did you find inflammatory?


Well, John, exchanging the letter 'c' in America with three 'k's seems to have
done it for me. Did you by chance make that change to -lower- the temp of your
post, or raise it? Be honest, sir.

And where did
I act wounded?


That plaintive bleat of a response to Keith calling you a troll, when you were
trolling.

Assuming that you agree with Keith's assertion that I was
trolling that is, you don't quite make that clear!


Well, John, any time you type America as "Amerikkka", just assume that all of
your readers will take the post as a troll. Which it was.

Being patriotic, as most of us here are (to one country or another), and being
wildly supportive of everything our governments do is not the same thing. But
the inference that everyone in America somehow supports the KKK or that the KKK
someone typifies the USA is going to make quite a few of us reply negatively,
as you must have intended.

Gordon
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Old September 9th 03, 06:20 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"John Mullen" wrote in message
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Anybody else noticed how criticising the USA (proper name of country)
automatically makes one a troll on this medium? At least according to

some.


I would hope so as these newsgroups are for the discussion of
military aviation and naval issues, not the politics of 3 decades ago

Keith


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Old September 9th 03, 06:35 PM
John Mullen
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"Keith Willshaw" wrote in message
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"John Mullen" wrote in message
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Anybody else noticed how criticising the USA (proper name of country)
automatically makes one a troll on this medium? At least according to

some.


I would hope so as these newsgroups are for the discussion of
military aviation and naval issues, not the politics of 3 decades ago

Keith


Poor answer Keith.

Firstly, politics obviously have a very major impact on military aviation
and naval issues. Acquisition and deployment of ships and planes are and
have always been decided by politicians.

Secondly, ships and planes were of course used quite extensively in the CIA
coup in Chile, and in Pinochet's subsequent brutal military dictatorship.
(aside: is the CIA unique among intelligence communities in having deployed
military hardware, eg U2, A12 etc? I suspect not but can't off-hand think of
other examples. Did the former KGB have its own military assets or rely on
'mainstream' Soviet vehicles for its dirty work?)

Thirdly, events of the past have very interesting effects on events of the
future and present, particularly the US-led 'war on terror' which is of
course still unfolding in all its ramifications. Are you proposing these
groups should have a cut-off before which events cannot/should not be
discussed here? If so, I'll let you be the first to tell Art Kramer (of many
examples which spring to mind!)

Fourthly, in the modern era particularly, 'asymmetric warfare' brings
terrorism and politics right into the mainstream of military issues, if
anyone was ever in any doubt about this.

Incidentally, I wonder how many readers of this group are aware that
Pinochet's loathsome regime perpetrated murderous terrorism on US soil.

'One document, Kornbluh said, indicates that in 1991 the CIA destroyed a
file on Manuel Contreras, the former head of Chile's secret police now
serving a sentence for the 1976 car bombing in Washington that killed
Orlando Letelier, a prominent Chilean opposition leader. Letelier's American
assistant Ronni Moffitt also died in the blast'

http://www.cnn.com/2000/WORLD/americ.../cia.chile.02/

Best wishes

John


 




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