Big Kahunas

I was waiting for that.

What? No reference to traitor?

mike regish

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"mike regish" wrote in message
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| If that truly becomes the case, I will seriously consider moving to
Canada.
|

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

David

You didn't directly address my "lie, steal and cheat".
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Stood up on TV and admitted to the world that he "lied".

Stole furniture from White House when he left and had to return it
(WSJ and other sources)

Cheated on Hillery (admitted on TV)

Comments.

I thought I was being nice by not bringing up the under the table pay
off to pardon the guy who stole millions from poor old folks and
skipped to Switzerland.

Etc.

Etc.

Etc

Goes on and on and on.

Best President we ever had (.

Makes Nixon look like 'poster boy' of Presidents.

Big John


On 02 Dec 2003 01:38:48 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

Big John writes:

David

Got in this thread and hard to back out.

Happens that way sometimes.

On 30 Nov 2003 12:45:04 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

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Clinton avoided the draft honestly,

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He redefined the word "is" for us so let me redefine "honestly".

No, he insisted that the person questioning him define what he meant
by his question, and then answered the precise question asked. Which
is what anybody with two brain-cells to rub together would do in that
situation -- say as little as you can possibly get away with.

Lie, steal and cheat.

How many million dollars wasted harassing the Clintons about various
real estate and options transactions, without finding *one single
thing* to even charge them with? (And never mind the chances of
*convicting*; they didn't even find enough to file charges.)

All over less money that Haliburton pocketed from *one* bridge repair
job in Iraq, where they were awarded the contract on a 50 million
dollar bid -- in preference to a 5 million dollar bid from the local
company who had repaired that exact bridge the last time we blew it
up.

Mike

Polls were over 60 in this monings paper. Doesn't sound like a loser
to me..

Big John


On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 04:04:12 GMT, "mike regish"
wrote:

His polls are slipping every day, with every soldier killed, with each day
that goes by with no WMD. And he's still got a year to go.

mike regish

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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I think dubya knows he's in trouble in the polls. If he were not having
poll trouble, he would not have made the trip. If this were his second term,
he would not have made the trip.


Really? It was just on NPR that if the election were held today, not only
would GW take Florida "cleanly", but he'd win the election nationally.

This poll data puts him against any Democrat currently running.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

I'm talking about the polls favoring the war in Iraq.

People will wise up eventually. They might have pliable minds, but the fact
remains that this war is proving to be unjustified.

mike regish

"Big John" wrote in message
...
Mike

Polls were over 60 in this monings paper. Doesn't sound like a loser
to me..

Big John


On Tue, 02 Dec 2003 04:04:12 GMT, "mike regish"
wrote:

His polls are slipping every day, with every soldier killed, with each
day
that goes by with no WMD. And he's still got a year to go.

mike regish

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:UIPyb.386940$Fm2.398013@attbi_s04...
I think dubya knows he's in trouble in the polls. If he were not
having
poll trouble, he would not have made the trip. If this were his second
term,
he would not have made the trip.


Really? It was just on NPR that if the election were held today, not
only
would GW take Florida "cleanly", but he'd win the election nationally.

This poll data puts him against any Democrat currently running.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

And that compares to the war in Iraq how?

mike regish

"Big John" wrote in message
...
David

You didn't directly address my "lie, steal and cheat".

`````````````````````````````````````````````````` ``````````````````````````
`````
Stood up on TV and admitted to the world that he "lied".

Stole furniture from White House when he left and had to return it
(WSJ and other sources)

Cheated on Hillery (admitted on TV)

Comments.

I thought I was being nice by not bringing up the under the table pay
off to pardon the guy who stole millions from poor old folks and
skipped to Switzerland.

Etc.

Etc.

Etc

Goes on and on and on.

Best President we ever had (.

Makes Nixon look like 'poster boy' of Presidents.

Big John


On 02 Dec 2003 01:38:48 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

Big John writes:

David

Got in this thread and hard to back out.

Happens that way sometimes.

On 30 Nov 2003 12:45:04 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

----clip----

Clinton avoided the draft honestly,

----clip----

He redefined the word "is" for us so let me redefine "honestly".

No, he insisted that the person questioning him define what he meant
by his question, and then answered the precise question asked. Which
is what anybody with two brain-cells to rub together would do in that
situation -- say as little as you can possibly get away with.

Lie, steal and cheat.

How many million dollars wasted harassing the Clintons about various
real estate and options transactions, without finding *one single
thing* to even charge them with? (And never mind the chances of
*convicting*; they didn't even find enough to file charges.)

All over less money that Haliburton pocketed from *one* bridge repair
job in Iraq, where they were awarded the contract on a 50 million
dollar bid -- in preference to a 5 million dollar bid from the local
company who had repaired that exact bridge the last time we blew it
up.

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 20:00:44 -0600 Big John wrote:

David

You didn't directly address my "lie, steal and cheat".
`````````````````````````````````````````````````` ```````````````````````````````
Stood up on TV and admitted to the world that he "lied".

The man blew it there but over a personal problem. The republicans had
some issues in their own ranks. The guy leading the charge bowed out
suddenly when it was discovered he fooled around and he was so proud and
righteous before that was pointed out.



Stole furniture from White House when he left and had to return it
(WSJ and other sources)

This sounds bogus to me, can you back that up? Sounds like smear.
Cheap smear at that.


Cheated on Hillery (admitted on TV)


A personal problem that the Republicans helped create and certainly doesn't
come into play in performing his duties. Do you also berate co-workers that
have had extra-marital affairs? I'll bet you don't since you seemm to have
some decency.


Comments.

I thought I was being nice by not bringing up the under the table pay
off to pardon the guy who stole millions from poor old folks and
skipped to Switzerland.

Vague references to pardons? To be fair you should know that presidential
pardons have a history of being ripe smelling to even the most hardened nose.


Etc.

Etc.

Etc

Goes on and on and on.

Best President we ever had (.

Makes Nixon look like 'poster boy' of Presidents.


More great usenet humor, remember that the Chinese really liked Nixon.
Do you remember why? Nixon liked how they dealt with their affairs.
Nixon and the chinese were birds of a feather.
BTW, Nixon resigned right.

To take someone's personal problems and turn that into "he's a
bad president he is human" is a weak argument.

Anyway it's all moot, Clinton's no longer president.


R. Hubbell


Big John


On 02 Dec 2003 01:38:48 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

Big John writes:

David

Got in this thread and hard to back out.

Happens that way sometimes.

On 30 Nov 2003 12:45:04 -0600, David Dyer-Bennet
wrote:

----clip----

Clinton avoided the draft honestly,

----clip----

He redefined the word "is" for us so let me redefine "honestly".

No, he insisted that the person questioning him define what he meant
by his question, and then answered the precise question asked. Which
is what anybody with two brain-cells to rub together would do in that
situation -- say as little as you can possibly get away with.

Lie, steal and cheat.

How many million dollars wasted harassing the Clintons about various
real estate and options transactions, without finding *one single
thing* to even charge them with? (And never mind the chances of
*convicting*; they didn't even find enough to file charges.)

All over less money that Haliburton pocketed from *one* bridge repair
job in Iraq, where they were awarded the contract on a 50 million
dollar bid -- in preference to a 5 million dollar bid from the local
company who had repaired that exact bridge the last time we blew it
up.

Big John writes:

David

You didn't directly address my "lie, steal and cheat".
`````````````````````````````````````````````````` ```````````````````````````````
Stood up on TV and admitted to the world that he "lied".

More than any other president has done. He seems to actually value
integrity.

Stole furniture from White House when he left and had to return it
(WSJ and other sources)

Widely debunked.

Cheated on Hillery (admitted on TV)

Big deal. I take for granted that anybody at that level has "cheated"
on their spouse; power is the ultimate aphrodisiac. The cases we
actually *hear* about are a tiny portion of the cases that occur, and
are randomly selected.

Besides, we have no idea what his actual deal with his wife was; so
far as I'm concerned she's the only one with standing to complain of
his behavior.

Comments.

There are a few.

I notice you've had nothing to say about the fraud Halliburton and
Dick Cheney have been profiting from, and the long string of lies out
of the White House to get us into this war, and the deliberate
"outing" of an undercover CIA operative to punish her husband for
writing a report critical of the administration's position (the
"yellowcake" scandal). Or his brother's illegally purging black
voters from the rolls in Florida to get Bush elected in the first
place. Frankly the crimes of this administration take us back to
19th-century levels, or perhaps to third-world hellhole levels.
--
David Dyer-Bennet, , www.dd-b.net/dd-b/
RKBA: noguns-nomoney.com www.dd-b.net/carry/
Photos: dd-b.lighthunters.net Snapshots: www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"mike regish" wrote in message
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| If that truly becomes the case, I will seriously consider moving to
Canada.
|

Don't let the door hit you on the way out.


There is a good science fiction novel, Russian Spring by Norman Sprinrad,
that is starting to appear prophetic. Essentially, the U.S. has become a
conservative bastion ruled and populated by buffons, where the best and the
brightest leave for other countries. Europe and Russia have joined together
and are creating an energetic space program along with an open, tolerant
society.

Our current President Doofus, and his supporters, are helping make this
fictional story more plausible every day.

Earl G.

"Earl Grieda" wrote in message
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| There is a good science fiction novel, Russian Spring by Norman Sprinrad,
| that is starting to appear prophetic. Essentially, the U.S. has become a
| conservative bastion ruled and populated by buffons, where the best and
the
| brightest leave for other countries. Europe and Russia have joined
together
| and are creating an energetic space program along with an open, tolerant
| society.
|
| Our current President Doofus, and his supporters, are helping make this
| fictional story more plausible every day.

Let me know when the Europeans become paragons of tolerance.

In article k.net, "Earl
Grieda" writes:

There is a good science fiction novel, Russian Spring by Norman Sprinrad,
that is starting to appear prophetic. Essentially, the U.S. has become a
conservative bastion ruled and populated by buffons, where the best and the
brightest leave for other countries. Europe and Russia have joined together
and are creating an energetic space program along with an open, tolerant
society.

Why would the best and brightest leave a conservative, capitalist society where
their talents and efforts would bring them success to have the fruits of their
labors plundered by a socialist regime?

Those who would leave would be the failures who THINK they are the best and
brightest, taking their degrees in Fench literature and art history with them.

Oh dear, how will we get along without them?

--
Wm. Donald (Don) Tabor Jr., DDS
PP-ASEL
Chesapeake, VA - CPK, PVG