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Old March 27th 05, 12:46 AM
Roy Page
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Are Garmin shipping the GNS430 with WAAS yet ?

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Old March 27th 05, 03:29 PM
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Roy Page wrote:

Are Garmin shipping the GNS430 with WAAS yet ?


Another ? - Anyone know how much the WAAS upgrade for a GNS430 might be?
Even a ballpark estimate.

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Old March 27th 05, 04:18 PM
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Jack, it seems to me that no one from Garmin is saying much about the
availability of the WAAS upgrade either.
They did indicate in early 2004 that the upgrade would be available in Oct
2004 and would involve hardware and software with a cost around $1,500.
Unless I have been asleep, Garmin missed their Oct 2004 date.
They appear to be busy with other upgrades for the 530 and leaving their 430
loyal customers out in the cold.
I need to decide very soon which unit to fit, so I am now supposing that the
GNS480 is the way to go for my new installation.
I am surprised that Bendix have not announced another certified all in one
box WAAS enabled to provide some competition for Garmin.

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Roy Page wrote:

Are Garmin shipping the GNS430 with WAAS yet ?


Another ? - Anyone know how much the WAAS upgrade for a GNS430 might be?
Even a ballpark estimate.

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Old March 27th 05, 07:18 PM
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Jack Allison writes:

Roy Page wrote:

Are Garmin shipping the GNS430 with WAAS yet ?


Another ? - Anyone know how much the WAAS upgrade for a GNS430 might
be? Even a ballpark estimate.


Garmin said it would be $1500.

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Old March 27th 05, 08:04 PM
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Yes, they are, at least to cutomers who own UPSAT CNX-80s. My club is
in the process of sending in the CNX-80 units we own to Garmin and
having them upgraded to GNS-480s through a sof****e upgrade, which
enables WAAS and LNAV/VNAV/LPV approaches among other things, and a new
front plate which replaces the "Apollo/UPSAT CNX-80" with "Garmin
GNS-480".

I would think that new buyers would be getting the same version.


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Old March 27th 05, 08:28 PM
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All I know is that I am not willing to learn the 480's interface, and
neither are most of the folks around here.

We are all waiting for the 430 units to start shipping or upgrading. I am
thinking I will put a 430 in my old Ovation to replace the king DME/NAV
units when the WAAS is ready, and then save my pennies for a Glass cockpit,
or for the next money pit which I am hoping I will build myself.


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Old March 28th 05, 03:19 AM
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Dude wrote:

We are all waiting for the 430 units to start shipping or upgrading.


A couple of months ago I called Garmin and asked them to speculate on the
availability of the WAAS upgrade for the GNS-430 and a tech told me June or
July 2005 (in the US).

My local avionics shop claimed that they had heard this date, too.

FWIW...

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Old March 28th 05, 01:12 PM
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On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:04:37 -0500, Tom Fleischman
k wrote:

Yes, they are, at least to cutomers who own UPSAT CNX-80s. My club is
in the process of sending in the CNX-80 units we own to Garmin and
having them upgraded to GNS-480s through a sof****e upgrade, which
enables WAAS and LNAV/VNAV/LPV approaches among other things, and a new
front plate which replaces the "Apollo/UPSAT CNX-80" with "Garmin
GNS-480".

I would think that new buyers would be getting the same version.


In article . net, Roy
Page wrote:

Are Garmin shipping the GNS430 with WAAS yet ?



Hmm:

OP: Are Garmin shipping the GNS430 with WAAS yet ?


Tom: Yes, they are, at least to cutomers who own UPSAT CNX-80s.


So does that mean that since I have a CNX80 I can get Garmin to ship me a
WAAS enabled GNS430? Perhaps I can use it as a backup :-))


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)
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Old March 28th 05, 04:06 PM
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In article , Ron Rosenfeld
wrote:

On Sun, 27 Mar 2005 14:04:37 -0500, Tom Fleischman
k wrote:

SNIP
OP: Are Garmin shipping the GNS430 with WAAS yet ?


Tom: Yes, they are, at least to cutomers who own UPSAT CNX-80s.


So does that mean that since I have a CNX80 I can get Garmin to ship me a
WAAS enabled GNS430? Perhaps I can use it as a backup :-))


You have to send your CNX-80 in to Garmin. They change the firmware,
update the software, put a new face plate on it and ship it back to you
as a GNS-480, with WAAS enabled.
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Old March 28th 05, 04:13 PM
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In article , Peter R.
wrote:

Dude wrote:

We are all waiting for the 430 units to start shipping or upgrading.


A couple of months ago I called Garmin and asked them to speculate on the
availability of the WAAS upgrade for the GNS-430 and a tech told me June or
July 2005 (in the US).

My local avionics shop claimed that they had heard this date, too.

FWIW...


I wouldn't hold my breath.

It seems to me that the reason they bought out Apollo/UPSAT in the
first place was so that they wouldn't have to really tackle the problem
of providing an upgrade for the 430/530. They were months behind on
that schedule a year and a half ago. The last thing they want to do is
to resurrect that old chestnut. They want to sell 480's now and you can
bet dollars to doughnuts that they don't want to compete with
themselves.

The GNS-480 a superior product anyway. Maybe they will take 430/530's
in trade. :-)
 




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