My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil

stupid idea.
long live the modern office.

It depends. It would be a stupid idea if it leads to lesser
productivity but lesser productivity rarely goes unnoticed. If your
job is such that you can work from home without sacrificing on
productivity, then getting caught in rush hour traffic while
unnecessarily commuting to work would be a stupid idea instead. There
would be plenty of cases where a worker would be more productive while
working from home.

Jay Honeck wrote:
Just buy a golf cart...

Those are a bit cold in winter around here...
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA

And damp around here in NW Oregon.

Tony

Do you get the mandatory overtime pay (5 hours) for the first week where
you work 45 hours in that work week or are you on salary? My boss would
never let us (non-exempt) folks work that schedule...wish we had a 2-20
schedule (2 days a week, 20 hours each...work 20 straight, 8 off and
then another straight 20)...would be great to have 5 day weekends

Scott


Margy Natalie wrote:
wrote:

Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will realize they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.



If by little planes you mean 4 seaters and such, then I doubt that
they will ever become reliable means of private transport like the
car. Even with an instrument rating it would require a high level of
skill, confidence and time commitment on part of the pilot to use a
little airplane regularly for commuting. Besides, no matter how many
airports spring up, there still remains the problem of getting from
the airport to the work place and back.
If more and more employers and employees work together to find ways to
work remotely from home, it would reduce automobile usage to an
extent.

This is a good reason for flex schedules I work a 9/5/4/ (9 hours, 5
days one week, 4 the next). If everyone did that it would reduce travel
10%. Some folks work 10/4/4 which is a really long day, but if you
commute 4 hours a day (not unrealistic in this area) you save a lot of
real time and traffic is reduced 20%.

Margy

--
Scott
http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/
Gotta Fly or Gonna Die
Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)

On Oct 14, 9:33 am, C J Campbell
wrote:
Vast numbers of automobiles with 2 or 3 or more cars per household;
long commutes of single drivers; horrible freeway congestion; urban
sprawl; loss of farmland and wilderness resources; the decay of cities
and the takeover of large areas of our cities by lawless gangs; obesity
caused by everyone eating at fast food joints; dependence on foreign
oil; global warming; pollution; filth, crud, corruption; hundreds of
thousands dead in traffic accidents; the closure of local airports
because of expanding city growth:

All of these problems can be traced to the rise of the superhighway. We
built it, and everybody moved out of town in an ever-increasing spiral
of flight to a chimera of utopian suburbia. The only people left in the
cities were a few of the very rich who understood city life and a lot
of the extremely poor and desperate. People forgot their responsibility
to their fellow man because their fellow man who needed help now lived
in that awful place fifty miles away. City parks were taken over by
drug users and prostitutes because they were the only ones left.
Schools, well, schools were simply abandoned to their fate.

The only reason people really live so far from where the work is
because of the freeway. They thought they would be happy out there, but
demonstrably they are not. So they keep moving further away, never
finding happiness, dragging the culture and amenities of the city
behind them. They wanted to live in quiet farmland, but they wanted
shopping like they had in the city, so they built huge shopping malls
and then complained that it was too much like the city and moved even
further away. They didn't like nosy people telling them how to live in
the city, so they moved to neighborhoods with restrictive covenants and
complained. It is madness.

Much of the only land available was near small town airports, so they
demanded that the airports be closed and developed into more suburbs or
golf courses. The trains were shut down as freight was transferred to
the new railroad of the freeways as trucks pulled entire chains of
trailers behind them across country.

It is time to reverse this trend! Vote no on new freeways! Vote no even
for maintenance! Elect people who will dynamite the freeways! Elect
incompetents who will allow the freeways to die of well-deserved
neglect! Here in Washington State we have been doing that for decades,
but only half-heartedly. Now is the time to finish the job!

When people realize that suburbia is not the answer, they will move
back to the cities where they will be happier and those who have to
live and work in the hinterland and remain behind will be happier.
Automobile usage will be cut by more than half, along with its
attendant use of petroleum.

Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will realize they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

Sounds wonderful, but if a whole lot of folks start flying the GA
traffic congestion will be a lot worse than what the roads and
freeways are now. Compare minimum separation for cars vs planes!

Overtime? What a bizarre concept :-0, No we don't get overtime for
anything. If we work extra hours we can get comp time, if we get it
approved first. We can't work more than 10 per day (no 20/2), but the
9/5/4 works out ok, until you end up just going in for 2 or 3 hours on
Sunday and spending 6 (lawn is not mowed, leaves are not up, laundry is
not done, oh well, another weekend shot to hell, but I did get a few
minutes stick time in an L-39 JET this weekend!!!)

Margy

Scott wrote:
Do you get the mandatory overtime pay (5 hours) for the first week where
you work 45 hours in that work week or are you on salary? My boss would
never let us (non-exempt) folks work that schedule...wish we had a 2-20
schedule (2 days a week, 20 hours each...work 20 straight, 8 off and
then another straight 20)...would be great to have 5 day weekends

Scott


Margy Natalie wrote:

wrote:

Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will realize they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.



If by little planes you mean 4 seaters and such, then I doubt that
they will ever become reliable means of private transport like the
car. Even with an instrument rating it would require a high level of
skill, confidence and time commitment on part of the pilot to use a
little airplane regularly for commuting. Besides, no matter how many
airports spring up, there still remains the problem of getting from
the airport to the work place and back.
If more and more employers and employees work together to find ways to
work remotely from home, it would reduce automobile usage to an
extent.

This is a good reason for flex schedules I work a 9/5/4/ (9 hours, 5
days one week, 4 the next). If everyone did that it would reduce
travel 10%. Some folks work 10/4/4 which is a really long day, but if
you commute 4 hours a day (not unrealistic in this area) you save a
lot of real time and traffic is reduced 20%.

Margy

Anthony W wrote:
I've yet to see any proof that global warming is man made. I've seen
some evidence that it's more of a solar phenomena.

As for ending the dependence on imported oil, so far hydrogen powered
internal combustion engines look promising but will have the same issues
and propane fueled engines. For now it's petrochemical fuel and there's
more in the USA than the feds will let the oil companies drill for.

Tony
Here's a recent scientific report on the effects of solar phenomena on
the climate.
http://www.pubs.royalsoc.ac.uk/media...pa20071880.pdf

On Oct 14, 9:33 am, C J Campbell
wrote:


All of these problems can be traced to the rise of the superhighway. We
built it, and everybody moved out of town in an ever-increasing spiral
of flight to a chimera of utopian suburbia. The only people left in the
cities were a few of the very rich who understood city life and a lot
of the extremely poor and desperate. People forgot their responsibility
to their fellow man because their fellow man who needed help now lived
in that awful place fifty miles away. City parks were taken over by
drug users and prostitutes because they were the only ones left.
Schools, well, schools were simply abandoned to their fate.


Wow, all of the rpoblems of modern life blamed solely on the freeway!! A
single cause responsible for every evil known to man! And only you figured
it all out! You know, I'll bet the problems are a little more complex than
that.

Oh...I forgot to ask if you were self employed. That would explain no
overtime pay since it is only required for employment covered in the
fair labor standards act...
http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/whdfs23.htm

Scott


Margy Natalie wrote:

Overtime? What a bizarre concept :-0, No we don't get overtime for
anything. If we work extra hours we can get comp time, if we get it
approved first. We can't work more than 10 per day (no 20/2), but the
9/5/4 works out ok, until you end up just going in for 2 or 3 hours on
Sunday and spending 6 (lawn is not mowed, leaves are not up, laundry is
not done, oh well, another weekend shot to hell, but I did get a few
minutes stick time in an L-39 JET this weekend!!!)

Margy

Scott wrote:

Do you get the mandatory overtime pay (5 hours) for the first week
where you work 45 hours in that work week or are you on salary? My
boss would never let us (non-exempt) folks work that schedule...wish
we had a 2-20 schedule (2 days a week, 20 hours each...work 20
straight, 8 off and then another straight 20)...would be great to have
5 day weekends

Scott


Margy Natalie wrote:

wrote:

Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will realize
they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.



If by little planes you mean 4 seaters and such, then I doubt that
they will ever become reliable means of private transport like the
car. Even with an instrument rating it would require a high level of
skill, confidence and time commitment on part of the pilot to use a
little airplane regularly for commuting. Besides, no matter how many
airports spring up, there still remains the problem of getting from
the airport to the work place and back.
If more and more employers and employees work together to find ways to
work remotely from home, it would reduce automobile usage to an
extent.

This is a good reason for flex schedules I work a 9/5/4/ (9 hours, 5
days one week, 4 the next). If everyone did that it would reduce
travel 10%. Some folks work 10/4/4 which is a really long day, but
if you commute 4 hours a day (not unrealistic in this area) you save
a lot of real time and traffic is reduced 20%.

Margy




--
Scott
http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/
Gotta Fly or Gonna Die
Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)

Scott wrote:

Oh...I forgot to ask if you were self employed. That would explain no
overtime pay since it is only required for employment covered in the
fair labor standards act...
http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/whdfs23.htm

Doesn't apply to the huge number of salaried employees. Either that,
or my ex-employee owes me a few million dollars.

Mark "don't I wish..." Hickey

Scott


Margy Natalie wrote:

Overtime? What a bizarre concept :-0, No we don't get overtime for
anything. If we work extra hours we can get comp time, if we get it
approved first. We can't work more than 10 per day (no 20/2), but the
9/5/4 works out ok, until you end up just going in for 2 or 3 hours on
Sunday and spending 6 (lawn is not mowed, leaves are not up, laundry is
not done, oh well, another weekend shot to hell, but I did get a few
minutes stick time in an L-39 JET this weekend!!!)

Margy

Scott wrote:

Do you get the mandatory overtime pay (5 hours) for the first week
where you work 45 hours in that work week or are you on salary? My
boss would never let us (non-exempt) folks work that schedule...wish
we had a 2-20 schedule (2 days a week, 20 hours each...work 20
straight, 8 off and then another straight 20)...would be great to have
5 day weekends

Scott


Margy Natalie wrote:

wrote:

Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will realize
they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.



If by little planes you mean 4 seaters and such, then I doubt that
they will ever become reliable means of private transport like the
car. Even with an instrument rating it would require a high level of
skill, confidence and time commitment on part of the pilot to use a
little airplane regularly for commuting. Besides, no matter how many
airports spring up, there still remains the problem of getting from
the airport to the work place and back.
If more and more employers and employees work together to find ways to
work remotely from home, it would reduce automobile usage to an
extent.

This is a good reason for flex schedules I work a 9/5/4/ (9 hours, 5
days one week, 4 the next). If everyone did that it would reduce
travel 10%. Some folks work 10/4/4 which is a really long day, but
if you commute 4 hours a day (not unrealistic in this area) you save
a lot of real time and traffic is reduced 20%.

Margy

On 2007-10-15 03:20:47 -0700, "Alex G." said:



On Oct 14, 9:33 am, C J Campbell
wrote:


All of these problems can be traced to the rise of the superhighway. We
built it, and everybody moved out of town in an ever-increasing spiral
of flight to a chimera of utopian suburbia. The only people left in the
cities were a few of the very rich who understood city life and a lot
of the extremely poor and desperate. People forgot their responsibility
to their fellow man because their fellow man who needed help now lived
in that awful place fifty miles away. City parks were taken over by
drug users and prostitutes because they were the only ones left.
Schools, well, schools were simply abandoned to their fate.


Wow, all of the rpoblems of modern life blamed solely on the freeway!! A
single cause responsible for every evil known to man! And only you figured
it all out! You know, I'll bet the problems are a little more complex than
that.

Apparently the nature of satire is lost on you.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor