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My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil



 
 
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  #31  
Old October 15th 07, 06:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
Robert M. Gary
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Default My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil

On Oct 13, 1:33 pm, C J Campbell
wrote:
Vast numbers of automobiles with 2 or 3 or more cars per household;
long commutes of single drivers; horrible freeway congestion; urban
sprawl; loss of farmland and wilderness resources; the decay of cities
and the takeover of large areas of our cities by lawless gangs; obesity
caused by everyone eating at fast food joints; dependence on foreign
oil; global warming; pollution; filth, crud, corruption; hundreds of
thousands dead in traffic accidents; the closure of local airports
because of expanding city growth:


If you are really worried about Global Warming you can buy carbon
offset credits from me. Please send cash.

-robert

  #32  
Old October 15th 07, 06:07 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Jay Honeck wrote:

I could live quite happily without freeways. In fact, given my 6 mile
(round trip) commute each day, I'm considering an all-electric car as
my next vehicle.


Ditto. Although I need one with about a 50 mile range. Virtually all
of our driving is around town, with the farthest points being the
airport and kid's high school which are 14 and 17 miles away
respectively. I've looked at a couple of the conversion kits for VW's
and Hondas, but so far it looks like the range is typically 40-50 miles.
  #33  
Old October 15th 07, 06:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Bob Noel wrote:

Just a note if you ever consider a gas/electric hybrid, with such a

short
commute you probably won't see the book gas mileage because the
engine needs to warm up before it will shutoff while driving.


Precisely why I am interested in an all-electric, not a hybrid. I work
from my home most of the time, so the commute isn't the issue. The
issue is the requisite running around that needs to be done to support
six kids and all their activities.
  #34  
Old October 15th 07, 06:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Matt Barrow wrote:



How is the electricity generated?



by the grid or by a windmill at home. The energy is stored in
batteries, and in some cases batteries combined with super capacitors
  #35  
Old October 15th 07, 06:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Jay Honeck wrote:

Just buy a golf cart...



Those are a bit cold in winter around here...



And not street legal around here.
  #36  
Old October 15th 07, 07:10 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Ray Andraka" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:



How is the electricity generated?


by the grid or by a windmill at home.


A windmill at home is not likely to have the output to power an all-electric
car for more than a few yards.

If it's a power grid powered by coal, you're likely causing more pollution
than a car that's nicely tuned.

The energy is stored in batteries, and in some cases batteries combined
with super capacitors


Capt. Obvious strikes again "~)

When someone can explain why temps went DOWN while CO2 emissions went UP, or
why temps were much lower during epochs when CO2 was several times higher
than today, I'll buy into the ACC arguments.

Until then, my Toyota 4-Runner suits me just fine :~o


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Old October 15th 07, 10:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Scott wrote:
Oh...I forgot to ask if you were self employed. That would explain no
overtime pay since it is only required for employment covered in the
fair labor standards act...
http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/whdfs23.htm

Scott

Not sefl-employed, I'm a federal employee.

Margy




Margy Natalie wrote:


Overtime? What a bizarre concept :-0, No we don't get overtime for
anything. If we work extra hours we can get comp time, if we get it
approved first. We can't work more than 10 per day (no 20/2), but the
9/5/4 works out ok, until you end up just going in for 2 or 3 hours on
Sunday and spending 6 (lawn is not mowed, leaves are not up, laundry
is not done, oh well, another weekend shot to hell, but I did get a
few minutes stick time in an L-39 JET this weekend!!!)

Margy

Scott wrote:

Do you get the mandatory overtime pay (5 hours) for the first week
where you work 45 hours in that work week or are you on salary? My
boss would never let us (non-exempt) folks work that schedule...wish
we had a 2-20 schedule (2 days a week, 20 hours each...work 20
straight, 8 off and then another straight 20)...would be great to
have 5 day weekends

Scott


Margy Natalie wrote:

wrote:

Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some
other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The
little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will realize
they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.



If by little planes you mean 4 seaters and such, then I doubt that
they will ever become reliable means of private transport like the
car. Even with an instrument rating it would require a high level of
skill, confidence and time commitment on part of the pilot to use a
little airplane regularly for commuting. Besides, no matter how many
airports spring up, there still remains the problem of getting from
the airport to the work place and back.
If more and more employers and employees work together to find ways to
work remotely from home, it would reduce automobile usage to an
extent.

This is a good reason for flex schedules I work a 9/5/4/ (9 hours, 5
days one week, 4 the next). If everyone did that it would reduce
travel 10%. Some folks work 10/4/4 which is a really long day, but
if you commute 4 hours a day (not unrealistic in this area) you save
a lot of real time and traffic is reduced 20%.

Margy





  #38  
Old October 15th 07, 11:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.homebuilt
Scott[_1_]
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Yup...understand. In my earlier reply to this message topic (down
below), I did note that exempt (salaried) employees are not required to
get overtime pay...

Scott

Mark Hickey wrote:



Doesn't apply to the huge number of salaried employees. Either that,
or my ex-employee owes me a few million dollars.

Mark "don't I wish..." Hickey





Scott wrote:


Do you get the mandatory overtime pay (5 hours) for the first week
where you work 45 hours in that work week or are you on salary? My
boss would never let us (non-exempt) folks work that schedule...wish
we had a 2-20 schedule (2 days a week, 20 hours each...work 20
straight, 8 off and then another straight 20)...would be great to have
5 day weekends

Scott


  #39  
Old October 15th 07, 11:16 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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Oh...THAT's killer! You work for the same government that mandated O.T.
pay. Sometimes I just love the way our government works..."It's OK for
us to make rules to protect our citizens from getting screwed, but we're
going to screw our own employees." That figures! Thanks for
hanging in there and clarifying

Margy Natalie wrote:

Scott wrote:

Oh...I forgot to ask if you were self employed. That would explain no
overtime pay since it is only required for employment covered in the
fair labor standards act...
http://www.dol.gov/esa/regs/compliance/whd/whdfs23.htm

Scott


Not sefl-employed, I'm a federal employee.

Margy




Margy Natalie wrote:


Overtime? What a bizarre concept :-0, No we don't get overtime for
anything. If we work extra hours we can get comp time, if we get it
approved first. We can't work more than 10 per day (no 20/2), but
the 9/5/4 works out ok, until you end up just going in for 2 or 3
hours on Sunday and spending 6 (lawn is not mowed, leaves are not up,
laundry is not done, oh well, another weekend shot to hell, but I did
get a few minutes stick time in an L-39 JET this weekend!!!)

Margy

Scott wrote:

Do you get the mandatory overtime pay (5 hours) for the first week
where you work 45 hours in that work week or are you on salary? My
boss would never let us (non-exempt) folks work that schedule...wish
we had a 2-20 schedule (2 days a week, 20 hours each...work 20
straight, 8 off and then another straight 20)...would be great to
have 5 day weekends

Scott


Margy Natalie wrote:

wrote:

Of course, those who still live out in the sticks will need some
other
way to get around. This will be the rail lines, just like in the old
days, or they will fly, as God intended. New airports will spring up
like flowers after a rain. Flight instructors will be busy. The
little
planes will no longer bother anybody because everyone will
realize they
are necessary. Aircraft manufacturers will finally have the
incentive
to innovate and produce airplanes in reasonable numbers.



If by little planes you mean 4 seaters and such, then I doubt that
they will ever become reliable means of private transport like the
car. Even with an instrument rating it would require a high level of
skill, confidence and time commitment on part of the pilot to use a
little airplane regularly for commuting. Besides, no matter how many
airports spring up, there still remains the problem of getting from
the airport to the work place and back.
If more and more employers and employees work together to find
ways to
work remotely from home, it would reduce automobile usage to an
extent.

This is a good reason for flex schedules I work a 9/5/4/ (9 hours,
5 days one week, 4 the next). If everyone did that it would reduce
travel 10%. Some folks work 10/4/4 which is a really long day, but
if you commute 4 hours a day (not unrealistic in this area) you
save a lot of real time and traffic is reduced 20%.

Margy







--
Scott
http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/
Gotta Fly or Gonna Die
Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)
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Old October 16th 07, 12:03 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.owning,rec.aviation.homebuilt
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"Margy Natalie" wrote

but I did get a few minutes stick time in an L-39 JET this weekend!!!)


Cool beans!

Shoot, I'd settle for a ride in an L-39, let alone some stick time!

Go on; you told us a little, now spill it! Tell us all about it, so we can
live vicariously! g
--
Jim in NC


 




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