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Old September 9th 04, 10:45 PM
ian maclure
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On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 21:39:28 +0100, Paul J. Adam wrote:

In message , Cub Driver
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As for the topic of this thread, my study of Bush's National Guard
reckon can be found at www.warbirdforum.com/bushf102.htm


Nice piece of work there, Dan, thank you. Unemotive, backed by facts,
separates fact from opinion, and punchy and readable to boot.


And therein lies the problem, Dhimmicrips are discouraged from
reading.

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Old September 9th 04, 11:07 PM
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After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, "Paul J.
Adam" confessed the following:

Nice piece of work there, Dan, thank you. Unemotive, backed by facts,
separates fact from opinion, and punchy and readable to boot.


Minor corrections:

[quote]"Bush got his pilot's wings in March 1970. (Again, this is
somewhat unusual. He ought to have received them at the end of his
flight training at Moody AFB.) "[unquote]

gwb got them along with the rest of his class at graduation of UPT. In
the catalog of USAF training courses one would find that in order to
attend F-102 RTU the stud would have to be a graduate of UPT (or USN
Flight School). Being a UPT graduate means you've received your wings.
They hand them out at graduation.

[quote]"Updated: Pentagon records released in September 2004 show that
Bush flew a total of 326.4 hours as pilot-in-command over the three
years 1970-1972. "[unquote]

The pedant would point out that the phrase 'over the three years
1970-72' might lead casual readers to think, "Ah three years, 36
months."

When in fact from 23 June 1970 (when gwb completed RTU) until April
1972 (month of his last flight) is merely 22 months...not even two
full years. But I certainly understand Dan being charitable, nor do I
expect him to edit this.

[quote]"In May 1973, Bush took his last physical, which identified him
as a "crew member on flight status," so he evidently wasn't grounded
during his final year in the Guard."[unquote]

Big jump to conclusion on your part. Incorrect conclusion IMO.

Without orders returning him to flying status, somebody, a Med Tech
checking the box on his physical doesn't put gwb on flying status.
Besides that would contradict your implication that there were no
F-102s for him to fly in 1973

[quote]"In 1972, the 111th FIS transitioned to a new aircraft, the
McDonnell-Douglas F-101B Voodoo fighter." [unquote]

Without an aircraft to fly, or a mission to perform there was no
reason to re-instate him to flying status, not to mention his intent
to leave the unit (hell leave the ANG). Folks see a guy with wings on
his uniform they assume he's on flying status...doesn't make it so.

It will be interesting to see how Dan incorporates the Killian memos.

Robey
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Old September 9th 04, 11:18 PM
Kevin Brooks
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"ian maclure" wrote in message
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On Thu, 09 Sep 2004 19:17:33 +0000, ArtKramr wrote:

[snip]

Never knew you were in a war that lasted that long.


Hey you can't have a war unless someone wants to fight.
I suppose I could have made a solo bayonet charge into
East Germany hoping to provoke WWIII but quite frankly
that wasn't part of the mission as I understood it.


LOL! That puts things into perspective. Art apparently greatly regrets that
the "old men" (as Kipling put it) in charge during most of the Cold War did
not make the same mistakes that the "old men" of the late thirties made.

"Tell me, do our masters know,
Loosing blindly as they fly,
Old men love while young men die?"


Brooks


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Old September 10th 04, 10:37 AM
Cub Driver
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 21:39:28 +0100, "Paul J. Adam"
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Nice piece of work there, Dan, thank you. Unemotive, backed by facts,
separates fact from opinion, and punchy and readable to boot.


Thank you. The funny part is, most of the information came from the
anti-Bush websites. They post facsimiles of Bush's records but don't
understand what they mean, either because they're unfamiliar with
military usage ("orders", "cleared") or they view them through a film
of bias.

all the best -- Dan Ford
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Old September 10th 04, 08:37 PM
Paul J. Adam
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In message , Robey Price
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After an exhausting session with Victoria's Secret Police, "Paul J.
Adam" confessed the following:
Nice piece of work there, Dan, thank you. Unemotive, backed by facts,
separates fact from opinion, and punchy and readable to boot.


Minor corrections:


Of course (and read with interest).

But you know what? You're sticking to information you can support, same
as Mr Ford kept his page straighforward and bull****-free (doesn't mean
it's Gospel, just means you and he both avoided the "BU$$$$$H LIES!" and
"DumboCRAP TRAITORS!!!" rubbish that's being spouted too freely here)


If we must have politics here, let it at least be rational.


--
He thinks too much: such men are dangerous.
Julius Caesar I:2

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