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On Sep 5, 12:36 pm, Papa3 wrote:
On Sep 5, 9:52 am, Roy Bourgeois wrote: Does anybody have experience with this product or similar?: http://www.watersavers.com/docs/yardandgarden_wat.shtml I am looking for an inexpensive and lightweight water meter to measure ballast. Any suggestions? Roy Roy, I use a model very similar to the one Paul is showing. Pluses: - Accurate. - Designed to work even with relatively low flow rates. - Rugged. - Simple Minus - A bit bulky and heavy (maybe 2-3 lbs). I've seen several guys using a digital meter at contests. Though the digital meters are pretty slick, I've adopted the KISS principle lately on all of my supporting gear. I worry that the electronic meters can have battery issues and that they may not be quite as robust (mine tends to sit either in the cargo bin of the trailer with tail dollies and towout gear or in the ballast box on top of the roof). Erik Mann LS8-18 P3 Hey, nice article in this month's Soaring magazine, Erik! Good timing! -- Matt |
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On 5 sep, 19:25, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
Earlier, Roy Bourgeois wrote: I am looking for an inexpensive and lightweight water meter to measure ballast. Any suggestions? The last time I crewed a Nationals, we tried one of those cheapie plastic hose meters like you get at a nursery or garden shop. It was inaccurate to the point of uselessness. Then we bought a water utility meter like the one between your house and the water main - basically what Paul Remde sells. It was no cheaper than Paul's price and it took us a couple days to find and obtain it. Were I to do it again I'd just order whatever Paul or Tim sells and be done with it. Bob K. Simplest thing is to fill out of 25 ltr cans and put stripes or marks at each 10 liter level Easyest way to measure how much you put in each wing jhvdl |
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On Sep 5, 7:17 am, toad wrote:
On Sep 5, 9:52 am, Roy Bourgeois wrote: Does anybody have experience with this product or similar?: http://www.watersavers.com/docs/yardandgarden_wat.shtml I am looking for an inexpensive and lightweight water meter to measure ballast. Any suggestions? Roy Roy, I have one of those meters, it works well but is not supper accurate. Todd Smith 3S Todd, I have been selling the inline water meter for 4 years. I use it to fill my ventus b with 20 gallons. It is very accurate and balances the wings perfectly. http://www.craggyaero.com/watermeter.htm Please check Craggy Aero prices before you buy. Thanks, Richard www.craggyaero.com |
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My water meter is identical to those installed on a house (I bought it
from a couple of city water contractors in Littlefield, TX) and seems to be very accurate based on the scales at U.S. nationals. I also plumbed it in line with one of the plastic meters this summer at Hobbs with good agreement. I formerly used 5 gal. water cans but got tired of hauling them around, lifting them in and out of the van, pouring from them, etc. Years later, I went to a homemade tire innertube carrier similar to P3's. If I kept it in a cartop luggage carrier like he does, I might still use it but mine rolled off the roof turning into my assembly area one morning. It was comical getting enough people to sit on it to create sufficient pressure to get water through the hose. Finally, after we'd partially emptied it, the ungainly thing was light enough for a bunch of us to lift it into the bed of someone's pickup truck so I could finish filling. This one developed cracks over the years, probably from the UV exposure, as did the one I replace it with. More recently I just hook up to spigot with a long garden hose, a standpipe (to limit pressure), the aforementioned water meter, and a hose plugged into the main dump port of the glider (which connects to both tanks). It's very simple to fill any amount up to maximum allowable so long as I can get the glider to the spigot. Chip Bearden ASW 24 "JB" USA |
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ups.com: On 5 sep, 19:25, Bob Kuykendall wrote: Earlier, Roy Bourgeois wrote: I am looking for an inexpensive and lightweight water meter to measure ballast. Any suggestions? The last time I crewed a Nationals, we tried one of those cheapie plastic hose meters like you get at a nursery or garden shop. It was inaccurate to the point of uselessness. Then we bought a water utility meter like the one between your house and the water main - basically what Paul Remde sells. It was no cheaper than Paul's price and it took us a couple days to find and obtain it. Were I to do it again I'd just order whatever Paul or Tim sells and be done with it. Bob K. Simplest thing is to fill out of 25 ltr cans and put stripes or marks at each 10 liter level Easyest way to measure how much you put in each wing jhvdl I am not so sure about that being the simplest... To me the only thing "simple" about it is that you don't have to buy a water meter. With your system, you have to tote several of the cans, or make multiple trips, come up with a plan for carrying them in your vehicle, tend to the filling constantly by holding the cans and pouring into a funnel, etc., or rigging some other Rube Goldberg apparatus. A simple rooftop bladder, valve, and meter (with optional standpipe, if needed) is all that you need for accurate and EASY filling. The bladder and everything collapses into a small box in the front of the trailer. My $0.02 Larry "zero one" |
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Richard,
That's a good meter, and if I needed an accurate meter, I would get one. I guess that I was curious how accurate the water measurement needs to be. Within 1 pound, 10 pounds, 1/10 ? For weight I think within 10 pounds total might be good enough, but I wouldn't want one wing 10 pounds heavier than the other, so I guess that within 1 pound error per wing would be OK ? For me in my G102, I just fill the wing tanks full. Todd |
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The digital meters that are available from your soaring supplier are
great. Suggested mod: Put additional foam over the battery so it doesn't slip away from the terminals if - sorry - WHEN you drop the meter. Jim |
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I offer several electronic and mechanical meters, all seem to be widely
accepted. I've also tried the cheap garden hose variety and find these to be pretty inaccurate.... see http://www.wingsandwheels.com/page45.htm for available types The best and cheapest and most accurate method is however to simply fill the tanks and then dump into a 5 Gal bucket (as much as you don't want)....works great for 304CZ owners, would be fine with most other gliders and is especially easy with those with separate wing tanks and dumps below each wing tim Please visit the Wings & Wheels website at www.wingsandwheels.com |
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