New Orleans Lakefront Airport

"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote


Yes the citizens of the New Orleans area are indeed suffering and there
has
been many the off topic post here talking about helping them BUT the price
and availability of petro products is going to effect all of us including
them. There are some pretty bad worst case scenarios out there.

Damn straight. I don't like the price, but can and will pay it. When the
talk of massive shortages, due to the pipeline being down, and reduced
refinery output, you have to wonder if you will have enough gas to get to
work. What then?

We all need to start serious conservation, and NOW. To delay will only make
things worse.
--
Jim in NC
--
Jim in NC

"An easy conservation move is simply to slow down. I'm driving
55--being passed........."

I completely agree. But why is it that if I even suggest it to anyone
they can't even understand the need for it. Either the supply has to
increase or the demand reduced to bring the price down - and neither is
happening. In that case only alternative is to raise the price.

At least fuel is still available. Price control etc would just make it
disappear from the market. Thank goodness no one is talking that -
except in Hawaii.

nrp wrote:

"An easy conservation move is simply to slow down. I'm driving
55--being passed........."

I completely agree. But why is it that if I even suggest it to anyone
they can't even understand the need for it. Either the supply has to
increase or the demand reduced to bring the price down - and neither is
happening. In that case only alternative is to raise the price.

At least fuel is still available. Price control etc would just make it
disappear from the market. Thank goodness no one is talking that -
except in Hawaii.


As much as I hate paying $3.19 (today's price, up 40 cents in the last
two days), this is likely the best thing to ever happen here with regard
to energy. Maybe the urban and suburban folks will realize that farmers
need large pickups, but soccer moms and yuppies don't.

Also, it may, just may, spur the serious development of alternative
energy and transportation options. Then again, I'm probably being
optimistic.


Matt

nrp wrote:
At least fuel is still available.

Hmmm??? Kinda makes one wonder if there really is a shortage, doesn't it?
If there were truely a shortage nationwide, wouldn't you expect many
stations to be closed?
How many gas stations in your area are closed because they cannot get gas?

"john smith" wrote:

At least fuel is still available.

Hmmm??? Kinda makes one wonder if there really is a shortage, doesn't
it?
If there were truely a shortage nationwide, wouldn't you expect many
stations to be closed?
How many gas stations in your area are closed because they cannot get
gas?


More than half of them.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

john smith wrote:

Hmmm??? Kinda makes one wonder if there really is a shortage, doesn't it?

Nope.

If there were truely a shortage nationwide, wouldn't you expect many
stations to be closed?

Most stations can go about a week before the tanks run dry. Of course, when they
close depends on when they last filled up.

How many gas stations in your area are closed because they cannot get gas?

We get our gas from overseas in this area. You're going to see shortages in
areas that are usually supplied from the Gulf refineries.

George Patterson
Give a person a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a person to
use the Internet and he won't bother you for weeks.

"Dan Luke" wrote in message
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"Morgans" wrote:

We all need to start serious conservation, and NOW. To delay will
only make
things worse.

Agree. An easy conservation move is simply to slow down. I'm driving
55--being passed by heedless nitwits still doing 80--until the current
unpleasantness is over.

Me too, and carpooling, when possible.
--
Jim in NC

"nrp" wrote

At least fuel is still available.

That is not a given, in my area. The pipeline, we get most of our fuel
from, runs from Texas, through Louisiana, and Mississippi, among others, on
its way to the East coast. It is out of action, mainly due to no
electricity for the pumping stations. Tanker drivers are going from
terminal, to terminal, trying to find a place that will give them the fuel
that they need. When they do get fuel, it is not a full load.

I am deeply concerned, not only for the homeless along the coast, but for my
ability to be able to get to work, and for others and the economy around
here.

What will happen? I don't know.
--
Jim in NC

Matt Whiting wrote:

As much as I hate paying $3.19 (today's price, up 40 cents in the last
two days), this is likely the best thing to ever happen here with regard
to energy. Maybe the urban and suburban folks will realize that farmers
need large pickups, but soccer moms and yuppies don't.

Our area farmers can't afford the fuel prices when they were "good" as
compared to now. Many here have simply started raising cattle. Rice,
soybeans, sugercane and wheat can't produce a profit at the current
market price they bring...

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote


Yes the citizens of the New Orleans area are indeed suffering and there
has
been many the off topic post here talking about helping them BUT the
price
and availability of petro products is going to effect all of us including
them. There are some pretty bad worst case scenarios out there.

Damn straight. I don't like the price, but can and will pay it. When the
talk of massive shortages, due to the pipeline being down, and reduced
refinery output, you have to wonder if you will have enough gas to get to
work. What then?

We all need to start serious conservation, and NOW. To delay will only
make
things worse.
--
Jim in NC
--
Jim in NC


Too bad the president doesn't just come out and act Presidential and ask
everybody to try to cut their gasoline usage by 10% until the shortage is
resolved....Kennedy would have done this, Nixon would have, Carter would
have, Reagan would have...

Mike
MU-2