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Old October 17th 05, 06:02 PM
Paul kgyy
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I saw an interesting presentation on C-span yesterday by an analyst
from Deutsche Bank. He made the following points.
1. Average prediction from multiple sources of oil prices: $60 for
2006, $40-50 after. Consensus is a 10% chance of future oil at $20,
also a 10% chance of $100.
2. The critical problem is lack of refining capacity. Unless the
price of refined fuel makes it worthwhile for companies to endure the
hassles of building new refining capacity, the price of fuel will not
decline.
3. A worldwide recession would help in reducing demand and price
(cheery thought).

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Old October 17th 05, 06:19 PM
xyzzy
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Paul kgyy wrote:

I saw an interesting presentation on C-span yesterday by an analyst
from Deutsche Bank. He made the following points.
1. Average prediction from multiple sources of oil prices: $60 for
2006, $40-50 after. Consensus is a 10% chance of future oil at $20,
also a 10% chance of $100.
2. The critical problem is lack of refining capacity. Unless the
price of refined fuel makes it worthwhile for companies to endure the
hassles of building new refining capacity, the price of fuel will not
decline.
3. A worldwide recession would help in reducing demand and price
(cheery thought).


The FBO at my home airport ran out of fuel yesterday because he couldn't
afford to buy a full load earlier in the week. It was a beautiful
Sunday too. New load expected today.

--
"You can support the troops but not the president"
--Representative Tom Delay (R-TX), during the Kosovo war.

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Old October 17th 05, 07:43 PM
Denny
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Consensus is a 10% chance of future oil at $20,
also a 10% chance of $100.
*************************************************

The chance of $20 oil is zero...
The chance of $100 oil is greater than 10%
The consensus is wrong...
Listening to experts is worthless...
If experts were truly 'experts' then every stock broker would be a
billionaire... Is your stock broker a billionaire?

denny

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Old October 17th 05, 08:13 PM
Markus Voget
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"Denny" wrote:

If experts were truly 'experts' then every stock broker would be a
billionaire... Is your stock broker a billionaire?


Only if he received enough commission fees from you to become independently
wealthy off them... :-)

For details, see http://efficientfrontier.com/ef/996/broker.htm


Greetings,
Markus
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Old October 18th 05, 03:29 AM
George Patterson
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Paul kgyy wrote:

1. Average prediction from multiple sources of oil prices: $60 for
2006, $40-50 after. Consensus is a 10% chance of future oil at $20,
also a 10% chance of $100.


Really? According to National Geographics, the consensus is that we will never
see $50 oil again.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.
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Old October 18th 05, 03:37 AM
Matt Barrow
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"George Patterson" wrote in message
news:w6Z4f.7024$iI.6500@trndny06...
Paul kgyy wrote:

1. Average prediction from multiple sources of oil prices: $60 for
2006, $40-50 after. Consensus is a 10% chance of future oil at $20,
also a 10% chance of $100.


Really? According to National Geographics, the consensus is that we will
never see $50 oil again.


Their expertise is topless women in Africa.


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Old October 18th 05, 03:38 AM
Matt Barrow
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"Denny" wrote in message
ups.com...
Consensus is a 10% chance of future oil at $20,
also a 10% chance of $100.
*************************************************

The chance of $20 oil is zero...
The chance of $100 oil is greater than 10%
The consensus is wrong...
Listening to experts is worthless...
If experts were truly 'experts' then every stock broker would be a
billionaire... Is your stock broker a billionaire?

OPEC is realizing that if they push the price too high, they'll "screw the
pooch".


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Old October 18th 05, 03:49 AM
Montblack
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("Matt Barrow" wrote)
OPEC is realizing that if they push the price too high, they'll "screw
the pooch".



OPEC is realizing that China is a sweet crude addict ... and will pay any
price.

US oil consumption as the basis for OPEC policy is so 1985.


Montblack
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Old October 18th 05, 03:56 AM
Matt Barrow
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"Montblack" wrote in message
...
("Matt Barrow" wrote)
OPEC is realizing that if they push the price too high, they'll "screw
the pooch".



OPEC is realizing that China is a sweet crude addict ... and will pay any
price.


And they'll wind up with China as their only customer. China has been
building up it's rserves and it's said they are running out of storage
capacity.

Imagine; OPEC pushes prices to $90-100 and then lose the rest of the world
to US and Canadian shale and tar sands producers.


US oil consumption as the basis for OPEC policy is so 1985.


Didn't say "US only", did I? (My memory fails every once in a while).




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Old October 18th 05, 04:08 AM
George Patterson
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Matt Barrow wrote:

Their expertise is topless women in Africa.


Their expertise is in interviewing people knowledgeable about the subject
matter. Same as any other reputable publication.

George Patterson
Drink is the curse of the land. It makes you quarrel with your neighbor.
It makes you shoot at your landlord. And it makes you miss him.
 




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