HEY! THIS IS AN AVIATION GROUP. CUT THE POLITICS

This newsgroup has become overrun by politics. Let's please return to
Aviation subjects.

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There are plenty of legitimate places to discuss military aviation topics.
Usenet really isn't one of them. Cutting the spam political trash and still
what have you got? The same half-dozen seat warmers who have been here
forever, drunks, boasters, knowitalls, hasbeens, neverweres, wannabes.
If you are active duty you are not doing yourself any favors by associating
however remotely with these characters. It goes to judgement. People notice.
Do what you want of course. Your life. Read all you want. But think twice
before you post, even under a nom de net.

GuiltyBystander9 wrote:

There are plenty of legitimate places to discuss military aviation topics.
Usenet really isn't one of them. Cutting the spam political trash and still
what have you got?

The same half-dozen seat warmers who have been here
forever, drunks, boasters, knowitalls, hasbeens, neverweres, wannabes.

You say that like it's a bad thing!

Bob McKellar

On 28 May 2004 15:33:33 GMT, "ian maclure" wrote:

On Thu, 27 May 2004 18:13:30 +0000, GuiltyBystander9 wrote:

There are plenty of legitimate places to discuss military aviation topics.
Usenet really isn't one of them. Cutting the spam political trash and still
what have you got? The same half-dozen seat warmers who have been here
forever, drunks, boasters, knowitalls, hasbeens, neverweres, wannabes.

As a long time drunken boasting knowitall has-been never-was wannabe
seat-warmer, I resent that remark

What more proof would one need that they were dealing with a real
fighter pilot than having them be drunk, boastful and knowledgeable on
all subjects?

Show me a sober, humble and ignorant individual and I will guarantee
no tactical aviation experience is present.


Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8

I put the word out because at least one active duty person who has posted here
is on a **** list as a result. He is never going to know it and he is never
going to understand why certain things happen in his career that cause him
grief.

There are a million ways to get screwed over in the military. You don't need
to volunteer for this one.

There are also people posting here, ex-military, who those still in and who
have advanced far up the ladder, don't like. They didn't like them when they
were in the service and were pleased their career was derailed.

These people do not like to see these individuals get any sort of attention at
all. Not even a usenet message board ****ing contest. If you participate, it
will be noticed.

Replies have been jocular. I got a laugh out of one. But believe me, if you
are active duty, think. Participating in an open forum where military rejects
and propagandists provide much of the content - is that really the smartest way
to spend your free time?

Your call.

GuiltyBystander9 wrote:

There are plenty of legitimate places to discuss military aviation topics.
Usenet really isn't one of them. Cutting the spam political trash and still
what have you got?

The same half-dozen seat warmers who have been here
forever, drunks, boasters, knowitalls, hasbeens, neverweres, wannabes.
SNIP:

And your aviation experience is?????

Walt BJ

Bob McKellar wrote:



GuiltyBystander9 wrote:

There are plenty of legitimate places to discuss military aviation topics.
Usenet really isn't one of them. Cutting the spam political trash and still
what have you got?

The same half-dozen seat warmers who have been here
forever, drunks, boasters, knowitalls, hasbeens, neverweres, wannabes.

You say that like it's a bad thing!

Bob McKellar


Hell yes!...takes a buncha talent to be proficient in all those
fields...I can claim only a few of 'em...and I'm working on the
rest.
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-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

On 28 May 2004 17:42:56 GMT,
(GuiltyBystander9) wrote:

I put the word out because at least one active duty person who has posted here
is on a **** list as a result. He is never going to know it and he is never
going to understand why certain things happen in his career that cause him
grief.

Do I detect a bit of paranoia here? I always knew who disliked me on
active duty. The choice was clear--either adjust or stay the course.
Few who are in power to trash a career will do so for less than
violations of express policy. The ones who choose to do so for
personal vindictiveness won't keep it a secret from you.

There are a million ways to get screwed over in the military. You don't need
to volunteer for this one.

There are also people posting here, ex-military, who those still in and who
have advanced far up the ladder, don't like. They didn't like them when they
were in the service and were pleased their career was derailed.

The ex-mil folks aboard here all seem to be well-respected. The ones
who didn't like me don't bother me in the least and the number of
friends I've got who are still in or far up the ladder vastly
outnumber the others.

These people do not like to see these individuals get any sort of attention at
all. Not even a usenet message board ****ing contest. If you participate, it
will be noticed.

Replies have been jocular. I got a laugh out of one. But believe me, if you
are active duty, think. Participating in an open forum where military rejects
and propagandists provide much of the content - is that really the smartest way
to spend your free time?

Your paranoia overshadows all else.



Ed Rasimus
Fighter Pilot (USAF-Ret)
"When Thunder Rolled"
Smithsonian Institution Press
ISBN #1-58834-103-8

(GuiltyBystander9) wrote:

I put the word out because at least one active duty person who has posted here
is on a **** list as a result. He is never going to know it and he is never
going to understand why certain things happen in his career that cause him
grief.

There are a million ways to get screwed over in the military. You don't need
to volunteer for this one.

There are also people posting here, ex-military, who those still in and who
have advanced far up the ladder, don't like. They didn't like them when they
were in the service and were pleased their career was derailed.

These people do not like to see these individuals get any sort of attention at
all. Not even a usenet message board ****ing contest. If you participate, it
will be noticed.

Replies have been jocular. I got a laugh out of one. But believe me, if you
are active duty, think. Participating in an open forum where military rejects
and propagandists provide much of the content - is that really the smartest way
to spend your free time?

Your call.

Nah...I don't believe that stuff...sounds kinda paranoid to me.
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-Gord.
(use gordon in email)

On 28 May 2004 17:42:56 GMT, GuiltyBystander9 wrote:

I put the word out because at least one active duty person who has posted here
is on a **** list as a result. He is never going to know it and he is never
going to understand why certain things happen in his career that cause him
grief.

I'm throwing the flag and calling "Unnecessary Bull****" on that one.

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-Jeff B.
yeff at erols dot com