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Old July 19th 08, 08:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dallas
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On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:22:05 +0800, Stealth Pilot wrote:

Yeah, but on what frequency? Chances are they have no idea what frequency
you're on.


you dont fly much do you?


Yes, you are correct.. I haven't spent much time flying around the
Pacific.

So what's the answer? An aircraft carrier in the Hawaiian Islands sees a
slow unknown target approaching squawking 1200, what frequency would they
use to contact that target?


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Old July 19th 08, 08:12 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dallas wrote in
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On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 19:22:05 +0800, Stealth Pilot wrote:

Yeah, but on what frequency? Chances are they have no idea what
frequency you're on.


you dont fly much do you?


Yes, you are correct.. I haven't spent much time flying around the
Pacific.

So what's the answer? An aircraft carrier in the Hawaiian Islands
sees a slow unknown target approaching squawking 1200, what frequency
would they use to contact that target?



well, we monitor 121.5 on box 2 when we're not using it to get weather or
whatever, and we use it all the time we even think we're in some sort of
sensitve area. Haven't had anyone talk to me yet!


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Old July 18th 08, 09:47 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dallas schrieb:
Assume you are flying off the coast of Hawaii and can see an aircraft


How far off? International airspace?

#m
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Old July 18th 08, 10:54 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jul 18, 1:47*pm, Martin Hotze wrote:
Dallas schrieb:

Assume you are flying off the coast of Hawaii and can see an aircraft


How far off? International airspace?

#m


The USN has said before that it considers aircraft approaching within
10 miles of the career valid targets for attack. However, that's in a
combat zone, probably not much would happen while steaming out of
Pearl. The Navy has shot down at least one airliner who got too close
to a task group in the middle east. It was the subject of an
investigation, not sure what happened with that though. The plane was
also on the wrong transponder code.

-Robert
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Old July 19th 08, 02:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
The Navy has shot down at least one airliner who got too close
to a task group in the middle east. It was the subject of an
investigation, not sure what happened with that though.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Vincennes_%28CG-49%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

The plane was
also on the wrong transponder code.


But not this. The aircraft was using the right code. The sailors aboard
the Vincennes just didn't bother to check the civilian flight schedules.

TheSmokingGnu
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Old July 19th 08, 05:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dallas
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On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:22:32 GMT, TheSmokingGnu wrote:

But not this. The aircraft was using the right code. The sailors aboard
the Vincennes just didn't bother to check the civilian flight schedules.


Yeah... that was pretty ugly on our part... lots of floating dead Iranian
civilians in the water. They haven't gotten over it yet.

Pretty much the same thing as the Russians shooting down Korean Air Lines
Flight 007 in 1983.
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Old July 19th 08, 06:55 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Dallas wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jul 2008 01:22:32 GMT, TheSmokingGnu wrote:


But not this. The aircraft was using the right code. The sailors aboard
the Vincennes just didn't bother to check the civilian flight schedules.


Yeah... that was pretty ugly on our part... lots of floating dead Iranian
civilians in the water. They haven't gotten over it yet.


Pretty much the same thing as the Russians shooting down Korean Air Lines
Flight 007 in 1983.
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Dallas


Not quite.

The Soviet Union had a long history of shoot first and ask questions
later.

The US was never in general so trigger happy.

If it were, I personally would have blown away a **** load of people.

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Jim Pennino

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Old July 19th 08, 07:12 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin Hotze[_2_]
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Robert M. Gary schrieb:

The USN has said before that it considers aircraft approaching within
10 miles of the career valid targets for attack.


Whatever they say. When in international waters/airspace they have to
follow international rules, not theirs. (In theory and as long as you
are not the target of them; you also can't treat them accordingly
[international court])

oh well. It drifts.

questions from the OP stays: is there an airspace around them?
I add: within US territory and in international space?

#m
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Old July 21st 08, 07:14 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
It was the subject of an
investigation, not sure what happened with that though.


The Captain got a medal.

 




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