Skyhawk vs. Mooney

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory...A?OpenDocument

Grant wrote:

Ok, ok, all sounds good, now I'm wondering how a Cardinal sizes up to
all of this. I kinda like what they have to offer. But maybe I'm
naive, good chance.

Roomier than either of your previous inquiries (need to watchout that you
don't overload it). Fuel burns about the same, but is faster than the 172
(has all metal fuel tanks as well). Its nice to not have the wing struts
but the Cardinal sits lower to the ground than the 172 so you'll typically
end up creasing your nose on the flaps or wing backside. It gets along on
the standard 150/160hp but its a much better bird with 180hp or the 200hp
of the retract version...

On 5/9/2007 8:18:40 PM, 150flivver wrote:



http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory...2EF974FDE32DBA
86256A3B006FA1EA?OpenDocument

Sorry, 150flivvewr, I was responding to Robert's comments about all Bonanzas
having similar ADs out there as this Mooney version, but my poor quoting left
off his sentence about the Bonanza. My mistake.



--
Peter

"Darrel Toepfer" wrote in message
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Grant wrote:

Ok, ok, all sounds good, now I'm wondering how a Cardinal sizes up to
all of this. I kinda like what they have to offer. But maybe I'm
naive, good chance.

Roomier than either of your previous inquiries (need to watchout that you
don't overload it). Fuel burns about the same, but is faster than the 172
(has all metal fuel tanks as well). Its nice to not have the wing struts
but the Cardinal sits lower to the ground than the 172 so you'll typically
end up creasing your nose on the flaps or wing backside. It gets along on
the standard 150/160hp but its a much better bird with 180hp or the 200hp
of the retract version...

Also easier to load(Huge doors), the view below is better(no struts or
wings), you can see if the gear is down, and in a rainshower, no one hides
under a Mooney. It is heavier than the 172, so use caution around the 150
horse version. The 200 RG is much better.

Al G

Robert M. Gary wrote:
On May 9, 9:59 am, Newps wrote:

Dave Butler wrote:

Robert M. Gary wrote:

3) Also, if you fly more than 100 hours a year, you will end up having
to do an annual every 100 hours. There is an AD that requires all
flight control connections and gear sections to be lubed every 100
hours.

What AD is that? I'm not aware of that. Is it model-specific?

If that's true that is a deal breaker. Take the plane apart every 100
hours for a lube job? Pathetic.


Your Bonanza doesn't require lube every 100 hours? You probably have
less panels to pull but most high performance singles require lube and
landing gear inspection every 100 hours one AD or another.


Yes, I do. It's a 10 minute deal however. You said you may as well
schedule the annual for every 100 hours because of all the labor
required to accomplish this. That's pathetic and an absolute deal breaker.

Your uplock rollers need to be lubed evey 100 hours. Have to check your
elevator fittings if they are still magnesium.

Peter R. wrote:

On 5/9/2007 1:40:13 PM, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:


You probably have
less panels to pull but most high performance singles require lube and
landing gear inspection every 100 hours one AD or another.


My '73 V35b does not.

On 5/10/2007 5:50:47 PM, Newps wrote:

Your uplock rollers need to be lubed evey 100 hours. Have to check your
elevator fittings if they are still magnesium.

But this is not mandated by an AD, which is what I thought Robert was
previously implying. My V35b only has four applicable ADs: One related to the
main spar (dye-penetrant) every 500 hours, one related to the V tail every
400 hours, one related to the ignition every 100 hours, and the final related
to a Tornado Alley turbo clamp every 100 hours.

--
Peter

Peter R. wrote:

On 5/10/2007 5:50:47 PM, Newps wrote:


Your uplock rollers need to be lubed evey 100 hours. Have to check your
elevator fittings if they are still magnesium.


But this is not mandated by an AD, which is what I thought Robert was
previously implying.



Yes it is mandated by an AD and it incles the V35B. 72-22-01 is for the
uplock rollers every 100 hours.

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory...256A080072F61C

If that link got munched then Google the AD number.

You're not subject to the elevator control fittings AD because the V35B
didn't have magnesium fittings.

On 5/10/2007 11:39:24 PM, Newps wrote:



Yes it is mandated by an AD and it incles the V35B. 72-22-01 is for the
uplock rollers every 100 hours.

Nope. Excluded from the AD by serial number. D-9495

--
Peter

I was simply wondering if someone could break down the cost difference
of a 172 and M20. Obviously maintenance on a mooney is going to be a
little more.....

I would suggest that if you think it will be only a "little" more, you
may be in for a rude shock.

I don't own a Mooney but I know friends who do, and they are quite a
bit more expensive over the long haul.

And unless you are the "typical" FAA human bean, at 170 pounds, you may
find it a bit of a squeeze in ways other than financial.

vince norris