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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:04:39 +0930, "The CO"
wrote: Of course there were explosives on board. It's called Jet Fuel. :^) Slam it into the ground at 500knots plus in a combustible metal container with an ignition source and it goes off pretty nicely. Remember that aircraft are mostly *empty space* and combustible organic material and combustible *metal*. Aircraft are mostly aluminium - which *burns* quite readily if you get it hot enough in the presence of an oxidiser. (Oxygen in the air in this case ) HAHAHA. Listen to this loonie. Now he's saying airplanes just burn up all on their own. All that flammable aluminum you know!! HAHA. You rw nuts will lie about anything. |
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote in message ... On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:28:05 +0900, "Ragnar" wrote: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote in message .. . WTF is going on here? Since when do crashes cause 92% of the plane to VAPORIZE?? Please provide your plane crash investigation credentials. How do you know it couldn't happen? Why don't you tell us one other time that a commercial jet crashed and was VAPORIZED??? Nope, not playing the "divert attention" game with you. I asked you to provide your crash investigation credentials. How do YOU know that a plane couldn't do what this one did? |
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote Hey stupid. We're talking about vaporized, not mangled!!! And the observations of a 'director of a funeral home' on an airliner crash are OBVIOUSLY to be taken verbatim and at face value. Vaporized vs mangled indeed. Pete |
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In article , Laura Bush
murdered her boy friend wrote: On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:28:05 +0900, "Ragnar" wrote: Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote in message .. . WTF is going on here? Since when do crashes cause 92% of the plane to VAPORIZE?? Please provide your plane crash investigation credentials. How do you know it couldn't happen? Why don't you tell us one other time that a commercial jet crashed and was VAPORIZED??? The 737 that crashed into a park in Colorado Springs is a good example. That crash has never been officially solved since there wasn't enough left to do much with. -john- -- ================================================== ================== John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708 Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ================================================== ================== |
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Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
http://www.canada.com/news/national/...4-e2eeafa96b46 WTF is going on here? Since when do crashes cause 92% of the plane to VAPORIZE?? Almost always when it's done at speed and in soggy ground. There have been airliner crashes that have totally disappeared into swampy areas where only small percentages of plane remains -- leave alone human remains -- have been recovered. F = MA always. --- Anti-War / Anti-Fascism protest: http://www.linkline.com/personal/frice/awp.htm Support Halliburton's Troops! |
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First thing - the cowardice of an anonymous poster is noted.
Second - the ignorance of this poster regarding airplane crashes. The 737 that crashed at Colorado Springs (ISTR) about 5 years ago while half way around base leg and somehow (rotor cloud? full rudder jam?) went in at about 90 degrees and very damn little was left. And it was slow! Flight 93 went in, inverted, as I remember, at a steep angle and a high rate of knots, well over 450. As usual, it made a big hole and blew tiny pieces all over. Remember, it still had most of its fuel load on board. Next time do some research before coming up with your very own pet theory. And yes, I have investigated aircraft accidents, four of them. One was a very good friend and his F104 disintegrated on impact, with him in it, at only about 200 knots and close to level flight. Walt BJ |
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"The CO" wrote in message ... "tim gueguen" wrote in message news:2wnac.50477$QO2.43514@pd7tw1no... Sounds to me like you don't know anything about plane crashes, or explosives either. Certainly the folks at the NTSB would have found explosives traces on the wreckage when it was examined. Of course its likely you believe they too were in on whatever plot it is you believe in this week. Of course there were explosives on board. It's called Jet Fuel. :^) Slam it into the ground at 500knots plus in a combustible metal container with an ignition source and it goes off pretty nicely. Remember that aircraft are mostly *empty space* and combustible organic material and combustible *metal*. Aircraft are mostly aluminium - which *burns* quite readily if you get it hot enough in the presence of an oxidiser. (Oxygen in the air in this case ) PS - and please note that this article is in a canadian paper. The staff of which would likely laugh at you if they read your post. It's all just crap from a whacko. Comments from the original poster aside accompanying the posted article, I see no one discussing or refuting the two weird, misplaced tidbits of information contained herein: "There was, in my conclusion, no way we could ever know who they were that charged that cockpit," Wallace Miller told students at the B.C. Institute of Technology. Uh, no, Wallace. The plane was smashed to bits. Right? Was there a reason that we needed to be so redundant? Perhaps it was a badly written article, and thus, a bad example? But then there's this: "The debris field spanned about 2.5 square kilometres of wooded area." How big is that in miles? I'm not sure, but I'll bet it's bigger than the generic "size of a couple of football fields across" reference in most of the other "official stories" I've seen. And in another "official story", the word "six" is used in relation to "miles from the crash scene": http://post-gazette.com/headlines/20...somersetp3.asp "Residents and workers at businesses outside Shanksville, Somerset County, reported discovering clothing, books, papers and what appeared to be human remains. Some residents said they collected bags-full of items to be turned over to investigators. Others reported what appeared to be crash debris floating in Indian Lake, nearly six miles from the immediate crash scene. Workers at Indian Lake Marina said that they saw a cloud of confetti-like debris descend on the lake and nearby farms minutes after hearing the explosion that signaled the crash at 10:06 a.m. Tuesday" Whoo! But hey--if that isn't enough to confound you, get a load of this: they even had robotics out there, poking around, looking for pieces and parts: http://www.postgazette.com/headlines...ppernat3p3.asp Boy, they musta wanted to find EVERY scrap of that plane. That isn't unusual, in and of itself, of course. The more pieces of the plane they can find, the better chance they have of finding a cause. BUT, why would they go to all that trouble, if the thing was smashed completely to bits on its only "impact"? This is what is called a "contradiction": http://www.post-gazette.com/headline...rset0911p4.asp "There was a crater in the ground that was really burning. There were pieces of fuselage and clothing all over the area, burning, said Peterson. He said he didn't see any debris longer than a couple of feet long." Draw your own conclusions. mellstrr |
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 20:15:10 -0700, Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
wrote: HAHAHA. Listen to this loonie. Now he's saying airplanes just burn up all on their own. All that flammable aluminum you know!! HAHA. You rw nuts will lie about anything. "0108 crashed 11/10/64 near Glasgow AFB while on low-level mission" The fuselage and wings had been completely VAPORIZED! There were some small, melted aluminum "puddles?" left on the ground. Maybe five pieces would fit in your hand if you could find that many. Aluminum burns and it isn't really a loonie HAHA situation when you realize there were real human beings inside of that aluminum frame. |
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From: "Laura Bush murdered her boy friend
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:04:39 +0930, "The CO" wrote: Of course there were explosives on board. It's called Jet Fuel. :^) Slam it into the ground at 500knots plus in a combustible metal container with an ignition source and it goes off pretty nicely. Remember that aircraft are mostly *empty space* and combustible organic material and combustible *metal*. Aircraft are mostly aluminium - which *burns* quite readily if you get it hot enough in the presence of an oxidiser. (Oxygen in the air in this case ) HAHAHA. Listen to this loonie. Now he's saying airplanes just burn up all on their own. All that flammable aluminum you know!! HAHA. You rw nuts will lie about anything. Hey, genius, have you ever heard of thermite? One of the components is aluminum. The other is iron oxide (rust) which provides oxygen. In the case of a burning airplane the oxygen comes from the air which, mixed with fuel and aluminum will be extremely hot and not much is likely to survive. Look up rocket fuels and you'll find some that include aluminum. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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"WaltBJ" wrote in message om... First thing - the cowardice of an anonymous poster is noted. Second - the ignorance of this poster regarding airplane crashes. The 737 that crashed at Colorado Springs (ISTR) about 5 years ago while half way around base leg and somehow (rotor cloud? full rudder jam?) went in at about 90 degrees and very damn little was left. And it was slow! Walt BJ Walt, That five years or so was March 1991. Tex |
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