Bizzare findings of Flight 93 crash in PA on 9-11

In article ,
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:
HAHAHA. Listen to this loonie. Now he's saying airplanes just burn
up all on their own. All that flammable aluminum you know!! HAHA.
You rw nuts will lie about anything.

And which part does your twisted mind think he is lying about?
Aluminum burning? Nope. It's true. Jet fuel burning? No, that's
true too. It's how the jet engines run.

Come on, out with it. What is he lying about?

-Geoff

In article ,
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

Well "vaporized" is what he said and he's the expert, not you.

And how is a funeral director an expert on plane crashes?

Do they now require a degree in aerospace engineering in order to
be a funeral director?


-Geoff

"John A. Weeks III" wrote:
In article ,
Laura Bush
murdered her boy friend wrote:

On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:28:05 +0900, "Ragnar"

wrote:


Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote
in message
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WTF is going on here? Since when do crashes
cause 92% of the plane to
VAPORIZE??

Please provide your plane crash investigation
credentials. How do you know
it couldn't happen?


Why don't you tell us one other time that
a commercial jet crashed and
was VAPORIZED???

The 737 that crashed into a park in Colorado
Springs is a good
example. That crash has never been officially
solved since there
wasn't enough left to do much with.

-john-

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Newave Communications
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Add to that a USAir 737 near Pittsburgh in 1994 IIRC. Same result: near
vertical impact, very little pieces of either plane or those aboard....Theory
was the plane got in a 757's jetwash, the rudder jammed, and, well, you know
the rest....

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(WaltBJ) wrote:
First thing - the cowardice of an anonymous
poster is noted.
Second - the ignorance of this poster regarding
airplane crashes. The
737 that crashed at Colorado Springs (ISTR)
about 5 years ago while
half way around base leg and somehow (rotor
cloud? full rudder jam?)
went in at about 90 degrees and very damn little
was left. And it was
slow!
Flight 93 went in, inverted, as I remember,
at a steep angle and a
high rate of knots, well over 450. As usual,
it made a big hole and
blew tiny pieces all over. Remember, it still
had most of its fuel
load on board. Next time do some research before
coming up with your
very own pet theory.
And yes, I have investigated aircraft accidents,
four of them. One was
a very good friend and his F104 disintegrated
on impact, with him in
it, at only about 200 knots and close to level
flight.
Walt BJ
Well, what do you expect from someone who is posting all sorts of conspiracy
trash, and who, if confronted with the facts, will say "You're not looking
at the truth!" Add to that likely political axe(s) to grind with the current
Administration and there you go.

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"Matt Wiser" wrote in message news:406b0694@bg2....

"John A. Weeks III" wrote:
In article ,
Laura Bush
murdered her boy friend wrote:

On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:28:05 +0900, "Ragnar"

wrote:


Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote
in message
.. .

WTF is going on here? Since when do crashes
cause 92% of the plane to
VAPORIZE??

Please provide your plane crash investigation
credentials. How do you know
it couldn't happen?


Why don't you tell us one other time that
a commercial jet crashed and
was VAPORIZED???

The 737 that crashed into a park in Colorado
Springs is a good
example. That crash has never been officially
solved since there
wasn't enough left to do much with.

-john-

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John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708

Newave Communications
http://www.johnweeks.com
================================================= ===================
Add to that a USAir 737 near Pittsburgh in 1994 IIRC. Same result: near
vertical impact, very little pieces of either plane or those
aboard....Theory
was the plane got in a 757's jetwash, the rudder jammed, and, well, you
know
the rest....

The rudder stalled on the 737, due to turbulence. (loss of ATC seperation)
There was never a reason outside politics to change the 737 PCUs. I kind of
feel bad for the way the system discredited the engineer that designed the
PCU.

"Retro Empire Deities" wrote in message
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In article ,
Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote:

Well "vaporized" is what he said and he's the expert, not you.

And how is a funeral director an expert on plane crashes?


He doesn't claim to be an "expert" on "plane crashes". He states what he saw
at the crash site, offers up some tidbits regarding his experiences during
the identification process, and hypothesizes that "we'll never know who
really stormed the cockpit".

Why are some of you so unnerved by this article that you're going out of
your way to derail the conversation?

Funny how you "Bush apologist-types" all crawl outta the woodwork every time
reasonable queries and articles about Flight 93 show up in these newsgroups.
One would think the very subject makes you exceedingly nervous.

You do realize that the more you do it, the more I'm gonna re-post the
original article. Think of all that extra exposure you're helping it get!

mellstrr--nah, that wouldn't have occurred to you--too simple...
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Sept. 11 crash remains shrouded in mystery, Pennsylvania coroner says

TIFFANY CRAWFORD Canadian Press Monday, March 29, 2004

VANCOUVER (CP) - The fate of United Airlines Flight 93, the last of
the four hijacked planes to crash on Sept. 11, 2001 remains shrouded
in mystery and controversy. The famous cell phone calls from brave
passengers on the plane that crashed in a Pennsylvania field painted a
heroic story of people storming the cockpit to sacrifice themselves
for others. The chief coroner who investigated the crash scene
recorded a less appealing different image.

"There was, in my conclusion, no way we could ever know who they were
that charged that cockpit," Wallace Miller told students at the B.C.
Institute of Technology.

The American coroner was spoke at the B.C. Institute of Technology in
Burnaby Saturday. He detailed the grisly task he had recovering the
remains of crash victims for their families.

Miller, the director of a family-run funeral home and elected county
coroner for Somerset, Pa., said only eight per cent of the wreckage
was recovered. Everything else was vaporised, he said.

"We found remains 50 feet deep," he said of the massive crater the
plane left on impact.

The debris field spanned about 2.5 square kilometres of wooded area.
Victim recovery efforts were hampered because most of the salvageable
human remains were in the treetops. snip

http://www.canada.com/news/national/...0-4099-a9f4-e2
eeafa96b46

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I'm with you Tarver,

My experience and background is in AAI,,,,what are we doing even
responding to these ridiculous conspiracy theories????

There is a conspiracy theory for every accident, how about JFK JR???

I guess every once in awhile along comes one that is just to tempting
to not bite on????

Anyway, all you have to do is go to the NTSB website and the full
facts are all there,,,like you said,,,rudder stall and reversal...

Hey there are a coupla new freaks on here posting buckets of ****,,,
(laura bush, LITTLE HITLER, etc.) too funny!!!!

They are even more entertaining to read than your responses!






On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:26:59 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:


"Matt Wiser" wrote in message news:406b0694@bg2....

"John A. Weeks III" wrote:
In article ,
Laura Bush
murdered her boy friend wrote:

On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:28:05 +0900, "Ragnar"

wrote:


Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote
in message
.. .

WTF is going on here? Since when do crashes
cause 92% of the plane to
VAPORIZE??

Please provide your plane crash investigation
credentials. How do you know
it couldn't happen?


Why don't you tell us one other time that
a commercial jet crashed and
was VAPORIZED???

The 737 that crashed into a park in Colorado
Springs is a good
example. That crash has never been officially
solved since there
wasn't enough left to do much with.

-john-

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================================================= ===================
John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708

Newave Communications
http://www.johnweeks.com
================================================= ===================
Add to that a USAir 737 near Pittsburgh in 1994 IIRC. Same result: near
vertical impact, very little pieces of either plane or those
aboard....Theory
was the plane got in a 757's jetwash, the rudder jammed, and, well, you
know
the rest....

The rudder stalled on the 737, due to turbulence. (loss of ATC seperation)
There was never a reason outside politics to change the 737 PCUs. I kind of
feel bad for the way the system discredited the engineer that designed the
PCU.

Funny how you "Bush apologist-types" all crawl outta the woodwork every time
reasonable queries and articles about Flight 93 show up in these newsgroups.

I addressed every issue in detail. Interesting how you ignored it.....


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

"fudog50" wrote in message
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I'm with you Tarver,

My experience and background is in AAI,,,,what are we doing even
responding to these ridiculous conspiracy theories????

There is a conspiracy theory for every accident, how about JFK JR???

The Democrats want to put that one on Republicans too, but each time they
bring it up I point out the JFK jr. should not have been thinking about a
2000 run at being US Senator from NY.

I guess every once in awhile along comes one that is just to tempting
to not bite on????

Sometimes these threads branch off into something a useful point can be made
about. I skipped reading most of the thread because most of the posts are
from the usual flame warriors.

Anyway, all you have to do is go to the NTSB website and the full
facts are all there,,,like you said,,,rudder stall and reversal...

Blakey is doing a good job of beating down the red queen.

Hey there are a coupla new freaks on here posting buckets of ****,,,
(laura bush, LITTLE HITLER, etc.) too funny!!!!

I am not sure how the American left expects these types to attract military
voters.

They are even more entertaining to read than your responses!

I am a vast right wing conspiracy.

On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:26:59 -0800, "Tarver Engineering"
wrote:


"Matt Wiser" wrote in message
news:406b0694@bg2....

"John A. Weeks III" wrote:
In article ,
Laura Bush
murdered her boy friend wrote:

On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 17:28:05 +0900, "Ragnar"

wrote:


Laura Bush murdered her boy friend wrote
in message
.. .

WTF is going on here? Since when do crashes
cause 92% of the plane to
VAPORIZE??

Please provide your plane crash investigation
credentials. How do you know
it couldn't happen?


Why don't you tell us one other time that
a commercial jet crashed and
was VAPORIZED???

The 737 that crashed into a park in Colorado
Springs is a good
example. That crash has never been officially
solved since there
wasn't enough left to do much with.

-john-

--
================================================= ===================
John A. Weeks III 952-432-2708

Newave Communications
http://www.johnweeks.com
================================================= ===================
Add to that a USAir 737 near Pittsburgh in 1994 IIRC. Same result:
near
vertical impact, very little pieces of either plane or those
aboard....Theory
was the plane got in a 757's jetwash, the rudder jammed, and, well, you
know
the rest....

The rudder stalled on the 737, due to turbulence. (loss of ATC
seperation)
There was never a reason outside politics to change the 737 PCUs. I kind
of
feel bad for the way the system discredited the engineer that designed
the
PCU.