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question RE F-18
The new F-18 two seater (is it 'E' or 'F'??) was the topic of conversation
last evening and we got to wondering if the backseater was a Naval Aviator or a Naval Aviation Officer. The backseater of the old F4 didn't have controls. I don't think the F-14 did either. What about the new F-18 two seater? Thanks JD |
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The "F" is a two seater occupied by a NAVAL FLIGHT OFFICER who is now called
a WSO. Weapons Systoms Operator. There is no flight controls in the back of the F model. Jake "JD" wrote in message news:e9tpd.85459$V41.76908@attbi_s52... The new F-18 two seater (is it 'E' or 'F'??) was the topic of conversation last evening and we got to wondering if the backseater was a Naval Aviator or a Naval Aviation Officer. The backseater of the old F4 didn't have controls. I don't think the F-14 did either. What about the new F-18 two seater? Thanks JD |
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On 11/25/04 4:38 PM, in article e9tpd.85459$V41.76908@attbi_s52, "JD"
wrote: The new F-18 two seater (is it 'E' or 'F'??) was the topic of conversation last evening and we got to wondering if the backseater was a Naval Aviator or a Naval Aviation Officer. The backseater of the old F4 didn't have controls. I don't think the F-14 did either. What about the new F-18 two seater? Thanks JD JD, The F/A-18E is the single-seater. The F/A-18F is the two-seater. The F comes in two versions: The F/A-18F(S) has a stick in the back. The missionized jet is the F/A-18F(T) and has side-stick controllers in the tub. The rear crew seat is occupied by an Naval Flight Officer (NFO) who fills the Weapons Systems Officer (WSO) role. By the way, F/A-18F(S) and F/A-18F(T) are not official designations AFAIK. I think they're RAG-isms that VFA-122 uses to ensure that the properly configured jet gets into the correct event. --Woody |
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Pechs,
I say-Holy crap, GIBs flying the jet...BUT when on exchange with the USAF, in the F-4D, some WSOs I flew with were damn good. Is there a USN reg yet about when the WSO can fly? No WSO flying below 10,000 ft AGL for the USAF when I was there. Probably no surprise to you or most others in this NG that squadrons with dual-place control aircraft have had any number of odd ducks actually flying the bird - and sometimes even at critical moments like take-offs and landings. During my SERGRAD tour at VT-7 (I was a "combat Buckeye B/N" and the only NFO aboard at NAS Meridian at the time) I enjoyed a number of hours in this fashion, including some in the then-being-phased-out T-2A. The "A" was a very good intro to marginal turbojet engine performance, the single, mighty J-34 being locally rated at 3400 EMF (Equivalent Mousefart). VT-7's Flight Surgeon at the time, Del Hahn, also received quality stick time. The fact that "Doc" Hahn was also an active CFII certainly added to folks' willingness to flip the "I GOT IT/YOU GOT IT" switch in his direction. -- Mike Kanze "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a cash advance." - Anonymous "Pechs1" wrote in message ... Doug- The F comes in two versions: The F/A-18F(S) has a stick in the back. The missionized jet is the F/A-18F(T) and has side-stick controllers in the tub. The rear crew seat is occupied by an Naval Flight Officer (NFO) who fills the Weapons Systems Officer (WSO) BRBR I say-Holy crap, GIBs flying the jet...BUT when on exchange with the USAF, in the F-4D, some WSOs I flew with were damn good. Is there a USN reg yet about when the WSO can fly? No WSO flying below 10,000 ft AGL for the USAF when I was there. What happens if they start to grab things around the bopat when they are scared?? Can the pilot uncouple these?? P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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Mike writes- During my SERGRAD tour at VT-7 (I was a "combat Buckeye B/N"
BRBR I say-pretty kool. We always one RIO in VF-126, Mine was Tony Hauserman. He is now at FedEx, flyin', due to the 'co-pilot' time he logged in the TA-4. He also owned a Beech twin something or other, actually started a teeny airline with it, to get flight time. Went to FedEx, succesfully got hired. P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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billwg wrote:
To clarify once more, the F can be field configured as a dual-control trainer as is done with some jets at VFA-122 or as in the intended mission role with flight controls in the front cockpit only. The wizzo has two side I've been thinking about that. Is it a service mindset that any Navy jet I know about that had a backseater for missions has never had flight controls? Talking to some of my Air Farce friends the Strike Eagle has flight controls in the backseat all the time. I got the impression that was an Air Force mindset... is it true of other Air Force tactical aircraft? Thanks, Ray |
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NIMBILL asks- While at VF-126 did you you ever serve under Adm. Feild day
Freddy Fellows Or Paul Guilchrist? BRBR No. FITFUD was Red Best, then Capt Kurt Schantz, then Anselmo. AIRPAC was Fetterman and I flushed the next guy otta my memory. A member of the 'Kelso, Kelley, K______ Klub that hammered all those at Tailhook '91, to protect their own asses. P. C. Chisholm CDR, USN(ret.) Old Phart Phormer Phantom, Turkey, Viper, Scooter and Combat Buckeye Phlyer |
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