Just a question

Damn that explains it all!!!


Andrew

"Exxor" wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:58:15 GMT, "William R Thompson"
wrote:

The real question is, why do idiots waste time raising doubts
about the Apollo flights?

Because they have no appreciation for the Conspiracy Industry's
explanation of how JFK escaped assassination by UFO on 9/11 in a
movie studio at Area 51.

On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:23:13 GMT, "J.F." wrote:

Just a question to start some dialog. How many of you thank that we
actually landed on the moon and had the technology to do so in 1969. Keep
it friendly.

? is there any serious doubt¿

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"J.F." wrote in
t:

Yes I know that this is a binaries group and I have posted several
pictures in here. Take a look at this website
http://mrbasheer.tripod.com/moonwalk.htm Its enough to make people
believe that no one has ever been on the moon.


Only because people are fatuous and not very bright all around.
Does your newspaper have an astrology section? Do you get to see psychics
on your TV?

But if it helps, go to http://www.clavius.org/,
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html,
http://www.iangoddard.net/moon01.htm, and http://www.apollo-
hoax.me.uk/strangeshadows.html . Just a start.

Your example site might be a little more convincing if the
webmaster (I use the term loosely), bothered to use larger and more
detailed jpegs and not try to obscure the detail within them. All of the
pics, after all, are readily available directly from NASA's sites.

Should you take a look at the situation with the same critical eye
that is required in court cases, you find you have to be able to produce
means, motive, and opportunity for any conspiracy theory as well.
Opportunity, in cases like this, can also include practicality.

NASA is a government-funded private organization. The moon project
was pretty much locked in - they had the funding regardless of whether it
was feasible or not, and required no public displays to convince
Congress. If they wanted to continue funding, they almost certainly would
have found a lot more of interest "on the moon" than they did, and not
let the project die after Apollo 17.

And if you're going to fake something, some things you probably
should not do:

1. Involve half a million subcontracter employees in about seven
different states;

2. Display virtually every aspect of the program publicly, up to
and including live transmissions that have to originate with stations in
England and Australia (whose radio antennas were pointed at, three
guesses now?);

3. Perform every last one of your launches, including tests, from
the edges of populated areas with broad public visibility;

4. Perform your recoveries with the assistance of the US Navy and
several thousand witnesses aboard the recovery ships;

5. Freely distribute and display your information to the public for
the next several decades.

And that's just a start. Do you think NASA also paid off the Soviet
Union, who were tracking each of the flights? Launched the Saturn Vs
simply to deorbit them in the middle of the ocean somewhere (and saved
the cost of only a portion of the fuel and the lander itself, which still
had to be a convincing model for the subcontracters)? Constructed a huge
vacuum chamber so the faked lunar dust would behave properly (something
still beyond our capabilities)?

Do you really believe that, with so much effort in creating this
elaborate facade of the moon, they'd let through video displaying an
errant breeze blowing the flag? Or, for some completely ridiculous
reason, paste part of their equipment image over top of the crosshairs?

Does it strike you as strange that, among the many hundreds to
thousands of people who would have to be in on the conspiracy, not one,
not ONE, has come forth to give details? Seems like that should be a cash
cow, don't you think?

Don't you think?


- Al.

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"J.F." wrote in message
t...

Just a question to start some dialog. How many of you thank that we
actually landed on the moon and had the technology to do so in 1969. Keep
it friendly.


Every informed, intelligent person believes that.

"J.F." wrote in message
t...

Yes I know that this is a binaries group and I have posted several
pictures in here. Take a look at this website
http://mrbasheer.tripod.com/moonwalk.htm Its enough to make people
believe that no one has ever been on the moon.


Only stupid people.

"J.F." wrote in message
t...

I never stated that I didn't believe it. There is no need to call me an
idiot either. I just happened to be reading an article on the net this
morning and wanted to get some feedback from some of the regulars here. I
said to keep it friendly. I spent 20 years in the USAF and I do believe
that we were on the moon. For crying out loud, why all the negativity.


You wrote:

"Yes I know that this is a binaries group and I have posted several pictures
in here. Take a look at this website
http://mrbasheer.tripod.com/moonwalk.htm Its enough to make people believe
that no one has ever been on the moon."

If you believe there is anything on that site that would cause an
intelligent human being to doubt man landed on the moon then you are not a
very bright fellow.

"Garrapata" wrote in message
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On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 12:23:13 GMT, "J.F." wrote:

Just a question to start some dialog. How many of you thank that we
actually landed on the moon and had the technology to do so in 1969. Keep
it friendly.

? is there any serious doubt¿


No.

For some light entertainment listen to this:

http://www.moonmovie.com/

then click on the link "replay intro".

Looks like "rocket scientist" school has
relaxed some of their standards. Just spout
a bunch of random factoids and finish up
with a firm declaration.

Thanks for the friendly response...
"Al Denelsbeck" wrote in message
46.128...
"J.F." wrote in
t:

Yes I know that this is a binaries group and I have posted several
pictures in here. Take a look at this website
http://mrbasheer.tripod.com/moonwalk.htm Its enough to make people
believe that no one has ever been on the moon.


Only because people are fatuous and not very bright all around.
Does your newspaper have an astrology section? Do you get to see psychics
on your TV?

But if it helps, go to http://www.clavius.org/,
http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html,
http://www.iangoddard.net/moon01.htm, and http://www.apollo-
hoax.me.uk/strangeshadows.html . Just a start.

Your example site might be a little more convincing if the
webmaster (I use the term loosely), bothered to use larger and more
detailed jpegs and not try to obscure the detail within them. All of the
pics, after all, are readily available directly from NASA's sites.

Should you take a look at the situation with the same critical eye
that is required in court cases, you find you have to be able to produce
means, motive, and opportunity for any conspiracy theory as well.
Opportunity, in cases like this, can also include practicality.

NASA is a government-funded private organization. The moon project
was pretty much locked in - they had the funding regardless of whether it
was feasible or not, and required no public displays to convince
Congress. If they wanted to continue funding, they almost certainly would
have found a lot more of interest "on the moon" than they did, and not
let the project die after Apollo 17.

And if you're going to fake something, some things you probably
should not do:

1. Involve half a million subcontracter employees in about seven
different states;

2. Display virtually every aspect of the program publicly, up to
and including live transmissions that have to originate with stations in
England and Australia (whose radio antennas were pointed at, three
guesses now?);

3. Perform every last one of your launches, including tests, from
the edges of populated areas with broad public visibility;

4. Perform your recoveries with the assistance of the US Navy and
several thousand witnesses aboard the recovery ships;

5. Freely distribute and display your information to the public for
the next several decades.

And that's just a start. Do you think NASA also paid off the Soviet
Union, who were tracking each of the flights? Launched the Saturn Vs
simply to deorbit them in the middle of the ocean somewhere (and saved
the cost of only a portion of the fuel and the lander itself, which still
had to be a convincing model for the subcontracters)? Constructed a huge
vacuum chamber so the faked lunar dust would behave properly (something
still beyond our capabilities)?

Do you really believe that, with so much effort in creating this
elaborate facade of the moon, they'd let through video displaying an
errant breeze blowing the flag? Or, for some completely ridiculous
reason, paste part of their equipment image over top of the crosshairs?

Does it strike you as strange that, among the many hundreds to
thousands of people who would have to be in on the conspiracy, not one,
not ONE, has come forth to give details? Seems like that should be a cash
cow, don't you think?

Don't you think?


- Al.

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