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My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil
On Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:31:37 -0700, Jay Honeck
wrote: Sounds good to me. Me, too. I could live quite happily without freeways. In fact, given my 6 mile Rarely do I need one and even then I could leave a bit earlier. OTOH what happens to all the cars? (round trip) commute each day, I'm considering an all-electric car as my next vehicle. About that time most of your neighbors will do the same, there will be no off peak times any more due to every one getting their batteries charged at night, and we'll discover we don't have either the electrical generating capacity from those smoky, coal burning plants, nor the electrical grid capacity to deliver it. Roger (K8RI) |
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My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil
"Dan" wrote in message ... Matt Barrow wrote: "Dan" wrote in message ... Montblack wrote: ("Dan Luke" wrote) At least you had feet. Our mom used ours to make soup. We had to walk to school on the stumps! That's it, cut him off! g Montblack At least you had soup, we had to graze on the lint on the floor. You had a floor? A real, honest-to-god floor? You pansy!! :~0 In winter the mud froze and we had a solid floor. We had a black hole that we had to jump over. We were unable to train the dog to make the jump, and she's now in another dimension. |
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My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil
On 2007-10-15 19:20:09 -0700, Dan said:
Anthony W wrote: Jay Honeck wrote: Just buy a golf cart... Those are a bit cold in winter around here... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA And damp around here in NW Oregon. Tony OK, you bunch of whiners, when I was a child I had to walk 15 miles to school in my bare feet in the sleet and snow, up hill.....both ways. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired True legend: Sometime in the 14th century the Campbells were returning from a cattle raid that had not gone very well, so they were making a rapid tactical retreat across the snow. Finally, exhausted, they wrapped themselves in their kilts and threw themselves down into the snow to take a needed rest. The clan chief's son, however, rolled up a large snowball and put it under his head. The chief came over and kicked the snowball away, saying, "And are ye become so effeminate, lad, that ye need a pillow?" That story has been handed down among Campbells for centuries, but there is no way to verify it. Still, it seems plausible. Consider the experience of a more recent ancestor: My grandmother's grandmother, Sarah Urrinda Rawson, at the age of six made the trek across the plains to Utah, walking the entire distance. She wrote that she and her little brother were in charge of the cattle, which frightened her sometimes when the cattle stampeded or when Indians attacked trying to steal cattle. The children had no shoes, so she got great cracks in her feet which she would sew up with her sewing kit when they stopped for the night. This was not the first time the children had had to migrate to a new home without shoes. After their home was burned by mobs the first time in Missouri, they had to flee in the dead of winter across the Missouri River, taking shelter on a sand bar. There her mother, Elizabeth, and Sarah Urrinda's baby brother, had to stay with nothing more to protect them than a sheet hung between willows. The children's feet were severely frostbitten. Sarrah Urrinda's older brother, Daniel was probably still a little sore from the ball he took in his knee at the battle of Clear Creek. He was 16 at the time. Later, when he was 19, he confronted an armed mob alone and demanded that they at least partially pay for the house in Illinois they had burned, the flocks and pigs they had stolen, and for the fence they destroyed. They finally caved and gave him a side of bacon, a cheese, and some eggs. Then they shot at him as he left for home. Later, Daniel was making shakes for a barn and he and the others decided to sleep at another barn that night. A mob set fire to the barn and started shooting everybody that came out. Daniel's best friend was shot to death as he stood next to him. They stopped in Iowa to regroup and the Army came asking for volunteers for a battalion of men to march against Mexico. Daniel swore that he would never serve the American government, which had done nothing to prevent these attacks by mobs or restore order. But he volunteered anyway when Brigham Young asked him to. So they marched to Missouri for supplies, but the supply depot was manned by the same people who had chased them out of Missouri. The commander of the battalion finally gave the Missourians an ultimatum that either they would deliver the supplies within the day or he would open fire with his cannon. They delivered. They marched across to San Diego, building a road all the way from Independence. Mustered out, they went to Yerba Buena (now San Francisco), and on to Sacramento looking for work so they could earn money to get back to Utah. They found it at Sutter's mill. Although they discovered gold there, Daniel was asked to take the horses back to Salt Lake City in the spring, which he did in a running battle with Indians the whole way. He sometimes had to swim across icy rivers towing a raft carrying the horses. So, when I hear people mocking the "15 miles each way in our bare feet" I think of those guys. They really lived like that. -- Waddling Eagle World Famous Flight Instructor |
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My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil
In article . com,
Jay Honeck wrote: Sounds good to me. Me, too. I could live quite happily without freeways. In fact, given my 6 mile (round trip) commute each day, I'm considering an all-electric car as my next vehicle. All-electric cars have the problem of limited range. I'm thinking of a plug-in Prius for my next car. It's an electric car for short trips, and a hybrid for long ones. With solar panels on the roof to charge it, it becomes pretty green. -- -Ed Falk, http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/ |
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My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil
Billions of Li-ion AA batteries in cars will be a
recycling/disposal nightmare. We need nuclear powered cars and trucks. Global warming is only the tip of the iceberg, the whole solar system is getting hotter. Jupiter has a new Red Spot, Mars ice caps are receding and the Rovers are getting considerably more power than was predicted. Even Pluto is getting hot, up to several degree above absolute zero now. Maybe we now know why the ancient Egyptians worshiped the Sun. "Edward A. Falk" wrote in message ... | In article . com, | Jay Honeck wrote: | Sounds good to me. | | Me, too. | | I could live quite happily without freeways. In fact, given my 6 mile | (round trip) commute each day, I'm considering an all-electric car as | my next vehicle. | | All-electric cars have the problem of limited range. I'm thinking of | a plug-in Prius for my next car. It's an electric car for short trips, | and a hybrid for long ones. With solar panels on the roof to charge it, | it becomes pretty green. | | -- | -Ed Falk, | http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/ |
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My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil
"Edward A. Falk" wrote All-electric cars have the problem of limited range. I'm thinking of a plug-in Prius for my next car. It's an electric car for short trips, and a hybrid for long ones. With solar panels on the roof to charge it, it becomes pretty green. Unless you park it for a few weeks between uses, solar cells don't come close to providing enough power to make it a viable charging option. -- Jim in NC |
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My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil
In rec.aviation.owning Morgans wrote:
"Edward A. Falk" wrote All-electric cars have the problem of limited range. I'm thinking of a plug-in Prius for my next car. It's an electric car for short trips, and a hybrid for long ones. With solar panels on the roof to charge it, it becomes pretty green. Unless you park it for a few weeks between uses, solar cells don't come close to providing enough power to make it a viable charging option. -- Jim in NC Actually, if you covered the entire area of a Prius with the best solar cells you can buy and parked it for 8 hours in Tucson in the middle of summer, you could go a few feet. 1 hp = 746 Watts Get the available sunlight energy from: http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/old_data...tlas/serve.cgi Really good solar cells are about 20% efficient. You do the math. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize GeneralAviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil
Edward A. Falk wrote:
In article . com, Jay Honeck wrote: Sounds good to me. Me, too. I could live quite happily without freeways. In fact, given my 6 mile (round trip) commute each day, I'm considering an all-electric car as my next vehicle. All-electric cars have the problem of limited range. I'm thinking of a plug-in Prius for my next car. It's an electric car for short trips, and a hybrid for long ones. With solar panels on the roof to charge it, it becomes pretty green. Have you researched the process of making solar panels? Things aren't as "green" as they seem... Matt |
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My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize GeneralAviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil
What voltage do those cars use? I assume it's more than 12V. If so,
you'll have to series connect several solar panels to match what you need. And then, if it's an oddball voltage, you'll have to build your own charge controller to keep from overcharging. And then, does the battery type used require a constant voltage or constant current to charge them. If constant current, you will have to build your own current source. None of this is un-doable, just some dinking around. If the voltage required is quite high, you will have a fair investment in solar panels... Edward A. Falk wrote: In article . com, Jay Honeck wrote: Sounds good to me. Me, too. I could live quite happily without freeways. In fact, given my 6 mile (round trip) commute each day, I'm considering an all-electric car as my next vehicle. All-electric cars have the problem of limited range. I'm thinking of a plug-in Prius for my next car. It's an electric car for short trips, and a hybrid for long ones. With solar panels on the roof to charge it, it becomes pretty green. -- Scott http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/ Gotta Fly or Gonna Die Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version) |
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My Modest Proposal to End Global Warming, Revitalize General Aviation, and End Our Dependence on Foreign Oil
The current crop of electric hybrids use about 4,000 AA
Li-ion batteries in series-parallel to get 800-1000 VDC for the motors. "Scott" wrote in message .. . | What voltage do those cars use? I assume it's more than 12V. If so, | you'll have to series connect several solar panels to match what you | need. And then, if it's an oddball voltage, you'll have to build your | own charge controller to keep from overcharging. And then, does the | battery type used require a constant voltage or constant current to | charge them. If constant current, you will have to build your own | current source. None of this is un-doable, just some dinking around. | If the voltage required is quite high, you will have a fair investment | in solar panels... | | Edward A. Falk wrote: | | In article . com, | Jay Honeck wrote: | | Sounds good to me. | | Me, too. | | I could live quite happily without freeways. In fact, given my 6 mile | (round trip) commute each day, I'm considering an all-electric car as | my next vehicle. | | | All-electric cars have the problem of limited range. I'm thinking of | a plug-in Prius for my next car. It's an electric car for short trips, | and a hybrid for long ones. With solar panels on the roof to charge it, | it becomes pretty green. | | | -- | Scott | http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/ | Gotta Fly or Gonna Die | Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version) |
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