LX Era 80 vs S80/S100

I'm thinking of upgrading my SDI C4 e-vario this winter in my DG-100. With limited space, I would be going for an 80mm one.

I've seen some different options, like the LX S80/S100 and Era 80, but fail to see many differences.

For what I do know from the cumulus-soaring.com comparison page is that the Era 80 has GPS built in, is IGC approved and has a built in backup battery.. Also, the Era seems to support 1 needle at a time, while the S80/S100 can do netto/relative/McCready needles at the same time.

Would you suggest one above the other? Any other features to compare that I'm missing?

Help would be appreciated!

On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 9:44:55 AM UTC+3, Senna Van den Bosch wrote:
I'm thinking of upgrading my SDI C4 e-vario this winter in my DG-100. With limited space, I would be going for an 80mm one.

I've seen some different options, like the LX S80/S100 and Era 80, but fail to see many differences.

For what I do know from the cumulus-soaring.com comparison page is that the Era 80 has GPS built in, is IGC approved and has a built in backup battery. Also, the Era seems to support 1 needle at a time, while the S80/S100 can do netto/relative/McCready needles at the same time.

Would you suggest one above the other? Any other features to compare that I'm missing?

Help would be appreciated!

I've flown S80 and first thing I did was to get rid of clutter of several needles.

I would add Air Glide S to the list. You get the very good inertial netto that is not availabe on others, and a product that is made to look and feel like real aircraft instrument.

Op woensdag 2 oktober 2019 10:18:31 UTC+2 schreef krasw:
On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 9:44:55 AM UTC+3, Senna Van den Bosch wrote:
I'm thinking of upgrading my SDI C4 e-vario this winter in my DG-100. With limited space, I would be going for an 80mm one.

I've seen some different options, like the LX S80/S100 and Era 80, but fail to see many differences.

For what I do know from the cumulus-soaring.com comparison page is that the Era 80 has GPS built in, is IGC approved and has a built in backup battery. Also, the Era seems to support 1 needle at a time, while the S80/S100 can do netto/relative/McCready needles at the same time.

Would you suggest one above the other? Any other features to compare that I'm missing?

Help would be appreciated!

I've flown S80 and first thing I did was to get rid of clutter of several needles.

I would add Air Glide S to the list. You get the very good inertial netto that is not availabe on others, and a product that is made to look and feel like real aircraft instrument.

The Air Glide looks amazing, however, the display is € 1499 and if I'm not mistaken, requires the € 1499 sensor unit as well, making the Era 80/S80/S100 well over € 1000 cheaper.

I fly with S80 in club aircraft and with LX EOS in my ASW27. My
contribution to your questions in that the S80 has too many knobs and
buttons. The EOS has one knob and one button.

Despite flying with the S80 for 2 seasons I still end up hitting the wrong
buttons and twiddling the wrong knob. The LX offerings are much easier to
operate.

Both are very good varios and provide all the data you need (and much
more).

Op woensdag 2 oktober 2019 12:45:04 UTC+2 schreef Jim White:
I fly with S80 in club aircraft and with LX EOS in my ASW27. My
contribution to your questions in that the S80 has too many knobs and
buttons. The EOS has one knob and one button.

Despite flying with the S80 for 2 seasons I still end up hitting the wrong
buttons and twiddling the wrong knob. The LX offerings are much easier to
operate.

Both are very good varios and provide all the data you need (and much
more).

Would you say the S80 is less accurate or about the same in performance? The Era 80 also features 2 knobs and buttons, but performance or feature wise I can't find many differences.

At 11:17 02 October 2019, Senna Van den Bosch wrote:
Op woensdag 2 oktober 2019 12:45:04 UTC+2 schreef Jim White:
I fly with S80 in club aircraft and with LX EOS in my ASW27. My
contribution to your questions in that the S80 has too many knobs and
buttons. The EOS has one knob and one button.

Despite flying with the S80 for 2 seasons I still end up hitting the
wrong
buttons and twiddling the wrong knob. The LX offerings are much easier
to
operate.

Both are very good varios and provide all the data you need (and much
more).

Would you say the S80 is less accurate or about the same in performance?
The Era 80 also features 2 knobs and buttons, but performance or feature
wise I can't find many differences.

They are both very good varios. My EOS tracks my Sage Vario pretty much
exactly. I am not sure how you would check 'accuracy' in climb or glide
except by doing a Johnsonesque long glide in still air.

On Wednesday, 2 October 2019 11:21:17 UTC+3, Senna Van den Bosch wrote:
Op woensdag 2 oktober 2019 10:18:31 UTC+2 schreef krasw:
On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 9:44:55 AM UTC+3, Senna Van den Bosch wrote:
I'm thinking of upgrading my SDI C4 e-vario this winter in my DG-100. With limited space, I would be going for an 80mm one.

I've seen some different options, like the LX S80/S100 and Era 80, but fail to see many differences.

For what I do know from the cumulus-soaring.com comparison page is that the Era 80 has GPS built in, is IGC approved and has a built in backup battery. Also, the Era seems to support 1 needle at a time, while the S80/S100 can do netto/relative/McCready needles at the same time.

Would you suggest one above the other? Any other features to compare that I'm missing?

Help would be appreciated!

I've flown S80 and first thing I did was to get rid of clutter of several needles.

I would add Air Glide S to the list. You get the very good inertial netto that is not availabe on others, and a product that is made to look and feel like real aircraft instrument.

The Air Glide looks amazing, however, the display is € 1499 and if I'm not mistaken, requires the € 1499 sensor unit as well, making the Era 80/S80/S100 well over € 1000 cheaper.


Correspoding LX Nav would be S100 with AHRS option, priced very close to it..

On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 9:18:31 AM UTC+1, krasw wrote:
On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 9:44:55 AM UTC+3, Senna Van den Bosch wrote:
I'm thinking of upgrading my SDI C4 e-vario this winter in my DG-100. With limited space, I would be going for an 80mm one.

I've seen some different options, like the LX S80/S100 and Era 80, but fail to see many differences.

For what I do know from the cumulus-soaring.com comparison page is that the Era 80 has GPS built in, is IGC approved and has a built in backup battery. Also, the Era seems to support 1 needle at a time, while the S80/S100 can do netto/relative/McCready needles at the same time.

Would you suggest one above the other? Any other features to compare that I'm missing?

Help would be appreciated!

I've flown S80 and first thing I did was to get rid of clutter of several needles.

I would add Air Glide S to the list. You get the very good inertial netto that is not availabe on others, and a product that is made to look and feel like real aircraft instrument.

Air Avionics are stopping making the Air Glide vario/nav systems - as reported on https://streckenflug.at/

The Airglide announcement
https://translate.google.com/transla...ooperation.pdf

from last paragraph
AIR Avionics wants to support interested parties and the open source community to further exploit acquired knowledge and software components.

Wonder if they intend it to become an open source instrument?

On Sunday, October 27, 2019 at 8:16:21 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 9:18:31 AM UTC+1, krasw wrote:
On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 9:44:55 AM UTC+3, Senna Van den Bosch wrote:
I'm thinking of upgrading my SDI C4 e-vario this winter in my DG-100. With limited space, I would be going for an 80mm one.

I've seen some different options, like the LX S80/S100 and Era 80, but fail to see many differences.

For what I do know from the cumulus-soaring.com comparison page is that the Era 80 has GPS built in, is IGC approved and has a built in backup battery. Also, the Era seems to support 1 needle at a time, while the S80/S100 can do netto/relative/McCready needles at the same time.

Would you suggest one above the other? Any other features to compare that I'm missing?

Help would be appreciated!

I've flown S80 and first thing I did was to get rid of clutter of several needles.

I would add Air Glide S to the list. You get the very good inertial netto that is not availabe on others, and a product that is made to look and feel like real aircraft instrument.

Air Avionics are stopping making the Air Glide vario/nav systems - as reported on https://streckenflug.at/

I hope some company buys that line of Air Glide varios! I love the instantaneous wind and the Blue dot in rough gusty conditions.