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The original poster said nothing of FAR violations... only that he realized
that flying the line as a co-pilot for a part 121 operation was too stressful for him.. and he decided to leave the FREE training before graduation... now the part 121 operator wants payment for him not fulfilling his portion of the contract... they wasted time and energy and flying costs to not get a qualified copilot. BT "569" wrote in message oups.com... You might be stuck, but I'd call the AOPA Legal Services and ask around. If you honestly saw some violations of FAR, you should report them. This is a tricky subject. What if you were flying as a captain and didn't want to fly a leg due to weather or any other issue, but dispatch insisted the flight was safe. You are PIC, but they pay your check. I am sure many people have died flying because of pressures from the employer. You made the right choice. |
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"Bravo8500" wrote in message oups.com... Just go to any small airlines website and look at hiring requirements. Most are 1500 total and 100 multi I think. Apply, and they'll have you sign a wonderful training contract. Well I have a way to go before I can apply. |
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The only FAR I had in mind would be the validity of my medical if I
find I'm under all this stress. It's probably a far stretch. What about the fact that I was never shown a typical schedule until IOE, which includes about 15hours in uniform for three days each? |
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This is a stretch but you might be able to make a claim under the Americans
with Disabilities Act if the schedule was truly going to make you unable to maintain medical certification versus just hating your job. It might not be the ethical thing to do but employers hate ADA cases and might very well eat the bill rather than fight something that could blow up in their face. "Bravo8500" wrote in message oups.com... The only FAR I had in mind would be the validity of my medical if I find I'm under all this stress. It's probably a far stretch. What about the fact that I was never shown a typical schedule until IOE, which includes about 15hours in uniform for three days each? |
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"Colin W Kingsbury" wrote in message k.net... This is a stretch but you might be able to make a claim under the Americans with Disabilities Act if the schedule was truly going to make you unable to maintain medical certification versus just hating your job. It might not be the ethical thing to do but employers hate ADA cases and might very well eat the bill rather than fight something that could blow up in their face. "Bravo8500" wrote in message oups.com... The only FAR I had in mind would be the validity of my medical if I find I'm under all this stress. It's probably a far stretch. What about the fact that I was never shown a typical schedule until IOE, which includes about 15hours in uniform for three days each? The smart thing to do was to go to his Doctor and request medicine for the stress on the job. Then he would have been required to report it to the FAA and his flying days would have been over. |
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"Bravo8500" wrote in message oups.com... How much would you guess legal fees would be if I lose - the contract provides that they can sue for them. Civil Judgments, Can be long and costly. |
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You see that a lot in truck driving schools/company's had a friend that got
sick during a long haul job just after truck driving school went to the hospital they kept him for 6 weeks he know has to pay for his truck driving training, medical bills ect because of 30 day's of job abandonment was not ann employee for 90 day for medical to kick in. It will cost him more in attorneys fees than it would cost just to pay for the truck driving training. I think he worked for Werner Trucking "BTIZ" wrote in message news:Eh3Ad.59734$QR1.19997@fed1read04... if you loose?? If I were a betting man.. I would say you WILL loose.. it would be better to complete the training.. work the required servitude off.. and then quit.. they are protecting their investment.. that you get training.. and then go work for someone else.. that is the standard contract around here.. with two small "commuter" Ditch Running airlines.. They provide training, type certificates.. and you fly for them for a year.. or pay them $5000 (was the last going rate) BT "Bravo8500" wrote in message oups.com... How much would you guess legal fees would be if I lose - the contract provides that they can sue for them. |
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The only FAR I had in mind would be the validity of my medical if I
find I'm under all this stress. It's probably a far stretch. What about the fact that I was never shown a typical schedule until IOE, which includes about 15hours in uniform for three days each? Did you not do any research before you applied and signed the training contract? You didn't talk to anyone before you signed on? 15 hour days are typical. Big deal...I don't see the stress in that, but that is me. BTW, since you signed the contract, they will come after you. In the days past, it used to not be that way. But a few companies went after a couple of pilots that did what you did...and they won! So now, every company is trying to do this. Good luck getting another 121 or 135 job (with someone respectable)...try explaining that you left during IOE at an interview. -John *You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North American* |
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but that is me. Yep. Good luck getting another 121 or 135 job (with someone respectable)...try explaining that you left during IOE at an interview. Disrespectable's not all bad. |
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i expect everybody is right about your chances of getting out of the
contract. you have not said but i expect it's written as an employment OR training contract . if you decide to walk it then the companys lawyers will try to make a guess at how much you're worth before they stack the billing. if they give you a discovery demand that looks like the new york phone directory then they've decided you've got some money and 3 senior lawyers and several helpers will show up at the first disposition, happily talking about baseball and such. then again....are you familiar with the term "judgment-proof"? dan |
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