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Old April 25th 04, 08:33 PM
Cub Driver
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I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
browsers at 65.108.100.215

This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.

So what do you see? Images or red X's?

Thanks!

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum
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The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
Viva Bush! blog www.vivabush.org
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Old April 25th 04, 08:53 PM
Guy Alcala
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Cub Driver wrote:

I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
browsers at 65.108.100.215

This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.

So what do you see? Images or red X's?


Neither: the Netscape broken image symbol for the pictures, plus all the
text, links etc. Netscape Communicator 4.76 (as you can see, I don't
exactly keep my software updated to the latest version).

Guy


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Old April 25th 04, 09:02 PM
Thomas Schoene
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Cub Driver wrote:
I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
browsers at 65.108.100.215

This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.

So what do you see? Images or red X's?


Very odd.

I get the red x problem initially, but I can make the pictures appear with
some work. I right click on the picture's space, show its properties, and
copy the full address of the picture to the browser address bar (e.g.,
http://65.108.100.215/forumbanner2.jpg ). That takes me to the picture on
a blank page all by itself. If I then go back to the whole page, the
picture is visible in its proper place. That's using IE6 and coming in via
Earthlink.

Damifino what's up. Some sort of cache/address problem, it looks like.

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Tom Schoene Replace "invalid" with "net" to e-mail
"Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when
wrong to be put right." - Senator Carl Schurz, 1872




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Old April 25th 04, 09:23 PM
Andreas Parsch
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Thomas Schoene wrote:

Cub Driver wrote:
I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
browsers at 65.108.100.215

This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.

So what do you see? Images or red X's?


Very odd.

I get the red x problem initially, but I can make the pictures appear with
some work.**I*right*click*on*the*picture's*space,*show* its*properties,*and
copy the full address of the picture to the browser address bar (e.g.,
http://65.108.100.215/forumbanner2.jpg ).**That*takes*me*to*the*picture*
on
a blank page all by itself.**If*I*then*go*back*to*the*whole*page,*the
picture is visible in its proper place.**That's*using*IE6*and*coming*in
via Earthlink.


Exactly the same here with Mozilla 1.6 via an ISP in Germany.


Damifino what's up. Some sort of cache/address problem, it looks like.


The webserver at 65.108.100.165 seems to have trouble with relative local
image URLs, like the "plain" filenames (i.e. without directory path and/or
"http://..." prefix) of the images. When you pass the full URL to the
server it works. If you then return to the HTML page, the browser get the
JPG/GIF from its cache (if you "refresh" the page, the photos are gone
again, because a refresh ignores the cache).

Anyway, a look at the webserver's access log should reveal which URL it gets
to "see" when the images are to be loaded and which HTTP code is returned
(not necessarily a 404). This should give some hint at the nature of the
problem (almost certainly some kind of mis-configuration of the webserver -
I think some of these have lots of strange options regarding what they
"hide" or not).

Regards
Andreas

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Old April 25th 04, 10:48 PM
Thomas Schoene
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Andreas Parsch wrote:
(almost certainly some kind of
mis-configuration of the webserver - I think some of these have lots
of strange options regarding what they "hide" or not).


Whatever it was, it seems to be sorted out. Now I get all the images,
including some that I didn't load into cache before.

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"Our country, right or wrong. When right, to be kept right, when
wrong to be put right." - Senator Carl Schurz, 1872




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Old April 26th 04, 11:22 AM
Cub Driver
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 22:23:28 +0200, Andreas Parsch
wrote:

The webserver at 65.108.100.165 seems to have trouble with relative local
image URLs, like the "plain" filenames (i.e. without directory path and/or
"http://..." prefix) of the images.


Just so, Andreas. It is a mirror site (I'm changing hosts) and I
copied over everything, including the .htaccess file that blocks
people from hotlinking my images. Well, it turned out that the file of
course was written for the existing site, and it blocked the new one
as an interloper, even though the images were on the same site and in
the same directory.

all the best -- Dan Ford
email: (put Cubdriver in subject line)

The Warbird's Forum
www.warbirdforum.com
The Piper Cub Forum www.pipercubforum.com
Viva Bush! blog www.vivabush.org
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Old April 25th 04, 09:56 PM
Pete
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"Thomas Schoene" wrote

Very odd.

I get the red x problem initially, but I can make the pictures appear with
some work. I right click on the picture's space, show its properties, and
copy the full address of the picture to the browser address bar (e.g.,
http://65.108.100.215/forumbanner2.jpg ). That takes me to the picture

on
a blank page all by itself. If I then go back to the whole page, the
picture is visible in its proper place. That's using IE6 and coming in

via
Earthlink.

Damifino what's up. Some sort of cache/address problem, it looks like.


I have exactly the same. Opera 6 (masq'ing as IE). Right click on the blank
space/Show Image...there it is.

Seems to be a prob with the relative addressing. What webserver is this
running on?

Pete


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Old April 25th 04, 10:44 PM
Peter Stickney
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In article . net,
"Thomas Schoene" writes:
Cub Driver wrote:
I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
browsers at 65.108.100.215

This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.

So what do you see? Images or red X's?


Very odd.

I get the red x problem initially, but I can make the pictures appear with
some work. I right click on the picture's space, show its properties, and
copy the full address of the picture to the browser address bar (e.g.,
http://65.108.100.215/forumbanner2.jpg ). That takes me to the picture on
a blank page all by itself. If I then go back to the whole page, the
picture is visible in its proper place. That's using IE6 and coming in via
Earthlink.

Damifino what's up. Some sort of cache/address problem, it looks like.


Hmm. What that sounds like is a timeout problem. Whatever's handling
the pictures was giving a slow response, and either the Browser, or
the Web Server basically gave up waiting. When you loaded the picture
individually, it got cached (Which makes it sound like a server-side
problem) and your browser uses its own local copy to fill in.

They seam to have sorted it out now, though (17:30 Dan's Local Time).

--
Pete Stickney
A strong conviction that something must be done is the parent of many
bad measures. -- Daniel Webster
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Old April 25th 04, 08:54 PM
James Hart
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Cub Driver wrote:
I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
browsers at 65.108.100.215

This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.

So what do you see? Images or red X's?


Yup, same here, no images.

--
James...
www.jameshart.co.uk


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Old April 25th 04, 11:38 PM
Keith Willshaw
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"James Hart" wrote in message
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Cub Driver wrote:
I would be very grateful if one or more of you would point your web
browsers at 65.108.100.215

This is a mirror of the Warbird's Forum website. When I look at it,
there are no images--only a Bill Gatesian red X where the image should
be. When the hosting company looks at the page, the images are there.
I went to the library and used one of the terminals there--no joy! But
perhaps the library and I are both using the same service provider.

So what do you see? Images or red X's?


Yup, same here, no images.


Works fine for me

IE 6 under Win XP

Keith


 




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