Germany invented it. We shot it down

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Or bombed it

Keith

And Germany laid waste to Europe and Russia not to mention costing
Britain, France, and Belgium their colonies postwar. So glad Germany
cost Britain its superpower status and robbed them of developing the
A-bomb first (Tube Alloys).


Rob

Well, the expense of WW2 screwed everybody up for a while. But given the
choice of fighting or losing everything, the French and British probably
would feel today the cost was worth it. As it was, Hitler did in Germany as
bad as anyone. I feel for the Germans for what they went through due to
having that regime leading them.

As for Britain losing superpower status and the bomb, Britain got the A-Bomb
under the terms of the Manhattan Project cooperation. As for Superpower
status, Britain is still one of the great powers, and as influence go they
are still up there, if just for language and culture. I flip on news
broadcasts around the world, and most gov'ts hire english speaking people
with english accents to do their news broadcasts. Not to knock Germany,
though, the influence they have and the potential there are significant,
given their position in Central Europe and their Economy. Germany could also
be a nuclear power if they wanted, but they see no need at the time, and as
the US and UK are their allies now, things should be OK for them defensively
for some time to come.

As for the European colonies being lost, that decline started after WW1. Due
again to expense.

DEP

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Well, the expense of WW2 screwed everybody up for a while. But given the
choice of fighting or losing everything, the French and British probably
would feel today the cost was worth it.

In 50 years there won't be any significant number of French, English or
European descended Americans to think that it was worth it.

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Or bombed it

Keith

And Germany laid waste to Europe and Russia not to mention costing
Britain, France, and Belgium their colonies postwar. So glad Germany
cost Britain its superpower status and robbed them of developing the
A-bomb first (Tube Alloys).


Rob

Now the truth comes out, you are proud of your country's slaughter of innocent
men, women and children. I bet you are also proud of the 6 million Jews and the
6 million non Jews you guys killed.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

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Or bombed it

Keith

And Germany laid waste to Europe and Russia not to mention costing
Britain, France, and Belgium their colonies postwar. So glad Germany
cost Britain its superpower status and robbed them of developing the
A-bomb first (Tube Alloys).


Rob

Now the truth comes out, you are proud of your country's slaughter of innocent
men, women and children. I bet you are also proud of the 6 million Jews and the
6 million non Jews you guys killed.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Of course not, just responding in kind to that UK-US arrogance over
winning the war attitude. Are YOU proud of US history of the
transatlantic slave trade that killed millions of Africans or the
displacement and destruction of the Amerindians? What about the KKK
and southern segregation, with all the murders that came from that?
How about US abortion at 1.6 babies murdered per year?
Seems like you only care about German atrocities. Try looking in the
mirror pal and think about what the US has done historically, not to
mention other nations. The colonial powers killed millions. Stalin
killed 30 million of his people (and the Poles, Gypsies, Jews, etc...)
and China under Mao killed 50 million. Ever heard the atrocities in
Cambodia, in South America, in Africa, in the Balkans, and the
Australian slaughter of Aboriginals?

Rob

Rob

Subject: Germany invented it. We shot it down
From: (robert arndt)
Date: 2/20/04 7:08 AM Pacific Standard Time
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Or bombed it

Keith

And Germany laid waste to Europe and Russia not to mention costing
Britain, France, and Belgium their colonies postwar. So glad Germany
cost Britain its superpower status and robbed them of developing the
A-bomb first (Tube Alloys).


Rob

Now the truth comes out, you are proud of your country's slaughter of
innocent
men, women and children. I bet you are also proud of the 6 million Jews and
the
6 million non Jews you guys killed.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Of course not, just responding in kind to that UK-US arrogance over
winning the war attitude. Are YOU proud of US history of the
transatlantic slave trade that killed millions of Africans or the
displacement and destruction of the Amerindians? What about the KKK
and southern segregation, with all the murders that came from that?
How about US abortion at 1.6 babies murdered per year?
Seems like you only care about German atrocities. Try looking in the
mirror pal and think about what the US has done historically, not to
mention other nations. The colonial powers killed millions. Stalin
killed 30 million of his people (and the Poles, Gypsies, Jews, etc...)
and China under Mao killed 50 million. Ever heard the atrocities in
Cambodia, in South America, in Africa, in the Balkans, and the
Australian slaughter of Aboriginals?

Rob

Rob


And that is how you justify 55 million dead by German aggression in WW II? .
SWINE.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

Oh, Oh, Oh, may I please respond?

robert arndt wrote:

Of course not, just responding in kind to that UK-US arrogance over
winning the war attitude. Are YOU proud of US history of the
transatlantic slave trade that killed millions of Africans or the
displacement and destruction of the Amerindians?

That's why we don't brag about it!

What about the KKK
and southern segregation, with all the murders that came from that?

See above! We brag about the END of it! I don't see you cheering about
VE day.

How about US abortion at 1.6 babies murdered per year?

BTW, doesn't Germany have a pretty liberal abortion policy?

Seems like you only care about German atrocities.

Only when people wax poetic about that period and place.

Try looking in the
mirror pal and think about what the US has done historically, not to
mention other nations. The colonial powers killed millions.
Stalin killed 30 million of his people (and the Poles, Gypsies, Jews,
etc...) and China under Mao killed 50 million. Ever heard the atrocities in
Cambodia, in South America, in Africa, in the Balkans, and the
Australian slaughter of Aboriginals?

Rob


Who around here is defending Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, the Hutus, so on, so
forth?

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From: (robert arndt)

And Germany laid waste to Europe and Russia not to mention costing
Britain, France, and Belgium their colonies postwar. So glad Germany
cost Britain its superpower status and robbed them of developing the
A-bomb first (Tube Alloys).


Rob

Now the truth comes out, you are proud of your country's slaughter of
innocent
men, women and children. I bet you are also proud of the 6 million Jews and
the
6 million non Jews you guys killed.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Of course not, just responding in kind to that UK-US arrogance over
winning the war attitude. Are YOU proud of US history of the
transatlantic slave trade that killed millions of Africans or the
displacement and destruction of the Amerindians? What about the KKK
and southern segregation, with all the murders that came from that?

Unlike you I will express shame over my history where shame is due as in your
examples.

How about US abortion at 1.6 babies murdered per year?

You are off by about 1,500,000.

Seems like you only care about German atrocities.

YOU were the one bragging about what you did during the war. In this thread
you brag about "laying waste to Europe and Russia." In another thread you
boasted of how many people died to bring your country down.

Try looking in the
mirror pal and think about what the US has done historically, not to
mention other nations. The colonial powers killed millions. Stalin
killed 30 million of his people (and the Poles, Gypsies, Jews, etc...)
and China under Mao killed 50 million. Ever heard the atrocities in
Cambodia, in South America, in Africa, in the Balkans, and the
Australian slaughter of Aboriginals?

Rob


What has that to do with your bragging about your country's slaughter of tens
of millions and your concentration camps? You Germans started that war. All
your boasting about wonder weapons and what others learned from them can't
change that.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

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Or bombed it

Keith

And Germany laid waste to Europe and Russia not to mention costing
Britain, France, and Belgium their colonies postwar. So glad Germany
cost Britain its superpower status and robbed them of developing the
A-bomb first (Tube Alloys).


Rob

Now the truth comes out, you are proud of your country's slaughter of
innocent
men, women and children. I bet you are also proud of the 6 million Jews
and the
6 million non Jews you guys killed.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired

Of course not, just responding in kind to that UK-US arrogance over
winning the war attitude. Are YOU proud of US history of the
transatlantic slave trade that killed millions of Africans or the
displacement and destruction of the Amerindians? What about the KKK
and southern segregation, with all the murders that came from that?
How about US abortion at 1.6 babies murdered per year?
Seems like you only care about German atrocities. Try looking in the
mirror pal and think about what the US has done historically, not to
mention other nations. The colonial powers killed millions. Stalin
killed 30 million of his people (and the Poles, Gypsies, Jews, etc...)
and China under Mao killed 50 million. Ever heard the atrocities in
Cambodia, in South America, in Africa, in the Balkans, and the
Australian slaughter of Aboriginals?

Rob

Rob
And the new African nations, having got out from under the *scourge of
colonialism *? Now kill their fellow citizens by the millions ! Freedom is
great !!!!

BMC

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Or bombed it

Keith

And Germany laid waste to Europe and Russia not to mention costing
Britain, France, and Belgium their colonies postwar. So glad Germany
cost Britain its superpower status and robbed them of developing the
A-bomb first (Tube Alloys).


Rob

Obviously a *quote* ? by someone who has never been "Harms way"

In article ,
(robert arndt) wrote:

And Germany laid waste to Europe and Russia not to mention costing
Britain, France, and Belgium their colonies postwar.

Any idiot can break something.

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