cirrus aircraft

wrote:

Would people say that's
typical of Mooney 201/Bonanza and other planes of a similar class to
the SR series?

I cannot say what is typical but in my case (a Bonanza V35 owner who flies
a lot of single-pilot IFR), I always hand-fly at least the departure up
through cruise and the initial and final instrument approach of every
flight when in IMC to retain proficiency. Most times I let the AP handle
the straight and level flight, which allows me to prepare for the approach.

--
Peter
























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wrote:

Ron Garret wrote:
Personally, if I ever lose the autopilot in IMC I'm probably diverting
to the nearest airport immediately.

That stikes me as an interesting comment, coming from a 172 owner
unable to afford to have George do the flying. Would people say that's
typical of Mooney 201/Bonanza and other planes of a similar class to
the SR series?

Well, I don't have an auto-pilot in my ancient Bonanza. I manage to do
IFR without any problems. I must confess I rarely do any exceeding long
legs IFR, though. 2 to 3 hours at the most.


--
Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Hood River, OR

I have been flying a v35 and it trims out fine. Its a lot better than my
Cherokee 180.
"Frank Stutzman" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Ron Garret wrote:
Personally, if I ever lose the autopilot in IMC I'm probably diverting
to the nearest airport immediately.

That stikes me as an interesting comment, coming from a 172 owner
unable to afford to have George do the flying. Would people say that's
typical of Mooney 201/Bonanza and other planes of a similar class to
the SR series?

Well, I don't have an auto-pilot in my ancient Bonanza. I manage to do
IFR without any problems. I must confess I rarely do any exceeding long
legs IFR, though. 2 to 3 hours at the most.


--
Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Hood River, OR

"Dan Luke" wrote

Then your left wrist gets a healthful workout on the flight to the
repair station.

Not that my opinion matters, since I don't plan on buying a Cirrus, but I
think they missed the mark, when they went with the side stick. I know all
of the advantages, but they just don't outweigh the disadvantage of lack of
flexibility, IMHO.
--
Jim in NC

The Cirrus has an electric trim. I find it's all but impossible to get
fine enough control to really get the thing trimmed up properly at high
speed; it's just too twitchy. But the Cirrus also has an autopilot,
which more than makes up for the twitchy trim. When everything is
working properly, flying the CIrrus cross-country is more like playing a
video game than flying an airplane. (In the best of all worlds I'd like
to have both a manual trim and an autopilot (and a rudder trim while
we're making out wish lists) but if I have to choose just one the AP is
a big win.)

My Cirrus does have rudder trim. The 2001 SR-22 has it. Don't know why
they removed it on more recent models.

KR

Mike wrote:
The Cirrus aircraft line is pretty impressive. One thing that is weird is
the side-yoke. Anybody find any problems with that? It seems that a standard
yoke would allow the pilot to have more control (i.e. control with
two-hands). Feedback would be helpful.

Two hands does not give more control. It gives less control. Many
pilots fly with just the index finger and thumb.

I found the sidestick to be very easy and intuitive. Your mileage may
vary.

"Morgans" wrote:

Then your left wrist gets a healthful workout on the flight to the
repair station.

Not that my opinion matters, since I don't plan on buying a Cirrus,
but I
think they missed the mark, when they went with the side stick. I
know all
of the advantages, but they just don't outweigh the disadvantage of
lack of
flexibility, IMHO.

Agree. I find side sticks gimicky and awkward. Much rather have a
center stick or yoke, although I will grant that a side stick may have
crash safety advantages.

--
Dan
C172RG at BFM

There are many very experienced old-hats that are of the opinion that
autopilots are required equipment for single-pilot IFR. An STEC-30 or 50 is
high on my upgrade list. Until it's in the panel, I will not fly any
appreciable IMC (more than 1 hour) without an instrument rated co-pilot.

Marco Leon

wrote in message
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Ron Garret wrote:

Personally, if I ever lose the autopilot in IMC I'm probably diverting
to the nearest airport immediately.


That stikes me as an interesting comment, coming from a 172 owner
unable to afford to have George do the flying. Would people say that's
typical of Mooney 201/Bonanza and other planes of a similar class to
the SR series?

-cwk.




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Dan Luke wrote:
"Morgans" wrote:

Then your left wrist gets a healthful workout on the flight to the
repair station.

Not that my opinion matters, since I don't plan on buying a Cirrus,
but I
think they missed the mark, when they went with the side stick. I

Agree. I find side sticks gimicky and awkward. Much rather have a
center stick or yoke, although I will grant that a side stick may have
crash safety advantages.

I find the fact that you need the autopilot to fly the plane* to be a
lot more disturbing. I'm not sure how I feel about the plane being
designed to be flown the same way as a bizjet.

* Numerous Cirrus owners have commented that trimming the plane to
hands-off is difficult and that they rely on the A/P for enroute
flying. Then again, who would drive a car today without power steering?
Perhaps this is the SATS-type future of GA.

-cwk.

In article .com,
wrote:
* Numerous Cirrus owners have commented that trimming the plane to
hands-off is difficult and that they rely on the A/P for enroute
flying. Then again, who would drive a car today without power steering?
Perhaps this is the SATS-type future of GA.


Power steering doesn't drive the car for you. An autopilot flies the
plane for you.

With all due respect to those who have purchased SR20/SR22 aircraft, I
wouldn't buy one if someone handed me the money. In my opinion, the
money is better spent on more proven designs.



JKG