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Debacle: Flight test of Diana-2
Hi All,
Recently, I was invited by the Diana-2 dealer to be part of the potential customer flight tests in Switzerland. It was a humiliating fiasco. I've written about it on my blog www.neshe.com Please feel free to browse. In a few days, it will also contain a technical part with photographs and a video. Best regards, Naresh |
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Sad. But let's hear the other side of the story...
Bartek |
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naresh wrote:
Hi All, Recently, I was invited by the Diana-2 dealer to be part of the potential customer flight tests in Switzerland. It was a humiliating fiasco. I've written about it on my blog www.neshe.com Please feel free to browse. In a few days, it will also contain a technical part with photographs and a video. Perhaps you said or did something that you weren't aware of that really ****ed them off. Make a joke about the ugly color of the winch (the color his wife picked out)? Say "Hi" to or chat with the guy at the field he's been feuding with for 20 years? Have a glass of beer or wine at lunch? Shawn |
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Shawn wrote:
naresh wrote: Hi All, Recently, I was invited by the Diana-2 dealer to be part of the potential customer flight tests in Switzerland. It was a humiliating fiasco. I've written about it on my blog www.neshe.com Please feel free to browse. In a few days, it will also contain a technical part with photographs and a video. Perhaps you said or did something that you weren't aware of that really ****ed them off. Make a joke about the ugly color of the winch (the color his wife picked out)? Say "Hi" to or chat with the guy at the field he's been feuding with for 20 years? Have a glass of beer or wine at lunch? Shawn Shawn, Its quite unlikely, but possible. Never-the-less, if someone ****ed me off, I'd try to "communicate" and reason out with the person. I've been thinking, but nothing comes to mind. And, nope, I didn't have a drop of alcohol. Anyway, for those who are interested in a technical analysis of the glider, I'll have it up during the weekend at the same site. Naresh |
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Its quite unlikely, but possible. Never-the-less, if someone ****ed me off, I'd try to "communicate" and reason out with the person. I've been thinking, but nothing comes to mind. And, nope, I didn't have a drop of alcohol. Anyway, for those who are interested in a technical analysis of the glider, I'll have it up during the weekend at the same site. Naresh - I'm afraid we can't get an unbiased technical analysis from you, one you being ****ed of (in your own words), second they haven't let you fly one. But thank you for bringing up details of "demo flying". |
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At 17:00 12 October 2005, Naresh wrote:
Hi All, Recently, I was invited by the Diana-2 dealer to be part of the potential customer flight tests in Switzerland. It was a humiliating fiasco. I've written about it on my blog www.neshe.com Please feel free to browse. In a few days, it will also contain a technical part with photographs and a video. Best regards, Naresh Mr. Beres has responded (in Polish) to questions on the Polish gliding website regarding Mr. Naresh's complaint. As I interpret his comments, he did not consider Mr. Naresh to be sufficiently experienced on high performance sailplanes to undertake a trial flight on the Diana safely - particularly as Mr. Naresh was not familiar with the site and in, apparently, not ideal meteorological conditions. A statement from the organiser of these trial flights (in Germany and Switzerland) is promised today. If it is in English, I will supply the website address. If in Polish, I will summarise his comments. Unless I am requested not to do so. sta13. |
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GK wrote:
Its quite unlikely, but possible. Never-the-less, if someone ****ed me off, I'd try to "communicate" and reason out with the person. I've been thinking, but nothing comes to mind. And, nope, I didn't have a drop of alcohol. Anyway, for those who are interested in a technical analysis of the glider, I'll have it up during the weekend at the same site. Naresh - I'm afraid we can't get an unbiased technical analysis from you, one you being ****ed of (in your own words), second they haven't let you fly one. But thank you for bringing up details of "demo flying". GK, I wonder what you mean by saying "(in your own words)". I'm writing a part of the technical analysis, you are welcome to go through it or ignore it. Whether my assessment is biased or not, depends on a lot of factors. The so called "my bias" can only be estabilished once you read it. Nobody's forcing you to look at anything, that wouldn't work would it ;-) Please don't be a representative of the entire group. |
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Naresh,
Would you please share with us: - What are your total glider hours flown as PIC ? - Total hours flown in gliders with L/D40. - Actual hours flown in gliders with L/D40 this year. You mentioned only having 4 log books and 1250 flights. Mark |
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Stanford Korwin wrote:
At 17:00 12 October 2005, Naresh wrote: Hi All, Recently, I was invited by the Diana-2 dealer to be part of the potential customer flight tests in Switzerland. It was a humiliating fiasco. I've written about it on my blog www.neshe.com Please feel free to browse. In a few days, it will also contain a technical part with photographs and a video. Best regards, Naresh Mr. Beres has responded (in Polish) to questions on the Polish gliding website regarding Mr. Naresh's complaint. As I interpret his comments, he did not consider Mr. Naresh to be sufficiently experienced on high performance sailplanes to undertake a trial flight on the Diana safely - particularly as Mr. Naresh was not familiar with the site and in, apparently, not ideal meteorological conditions. A statement from the organiser of these trial flights (in Germany and Switzerland) is promised today. If it is in English, I will supply the website address. If in Polish, I will summarise his comments. Unless I am requested not to do so. sta13. Sta13, 1. As far as the experience goes, it is not accurate, I have the emails (all the collection of them), and I have significantly more experience than what was requested. 2. They did not even wait for the check ride instructor to brief them. 3. The meteorological conditions? Wow, thats one hilarious one: it was 22deg cent. and zero wind. We were towing not winching (diana prototype cannot be winched). I have video's to corraborate this, and will put the video on the site as well as photographs that show that Mr. Beres's statements are untrue. I believe that they decided to not let me fly, period, no explaination. They can say anything, if it was the experience, they knew mine, they could've told me no-can't-do, or could've said that you need more hours than I have and I'd never have wasted my time and money. Thanks Naresh |
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It is none of your business.
It is only between him and the group that put on the demo by invitation only. He was invited. Assessing some ones qualification is not done through log books only. It is only a part. The problem it appears lays with the organizers. They gave the pilot the run around. The decision should have been made to let him fly or not before he left his home. This group certainly should reimburse his expenses. If only for public relations. He has a right to be ****ed off about it. Udo Naresh, Would you please share with us: - What are your total glider hours flown as PIC ? - Total hours flown in gliders with L/D40. - Actual hours flown in gliders with L/D40 this year. You mentioned only having 4 log books and 1250 flights. Mark |
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