I am NOT superstitious

In a previous article, said:
Paul Tomblin wrote:

Our club's Lance has a Loran in it that as far as I know, only one person
ever used. And I'm not too sure about him because he always complained
that it couldn't lock on "if somebody flew the plane without turning it
on". Yeah, I laughed when I read that too.

Don't laugh. He's only missing one step in there. If you turn the LORAN off,
fly the plane more than a few miles, and turn it back on again at a different
location, it won't lock in. All it would take is for somebody to take the plane,

It couldn't lock on AT ALL? Or it would take a little while? I thought
LORAN was an absolute positioner (like GPS) not just a relative positioner
like INS.

Are you going to tell me that all those LORANs in people's boats have to
be on all the time the boat is being trailered?

--
Paul Tomblin http://xcski.com/blogs/pt/
"It's free they say, if you can get it to run, the geeks say `hey, that's half
the fun', but I've got a girlfriend and things to get done, the Linux OS sucks"
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Hey, my Foster does that too! You can reinitialize it in the air, but it requires
you to enter the lat-lon from the GPS (well, sectionals work too), wearing a
ceremonial robe, a couple of magic incantations, and a plastic Jesus on the
glareshield to make it happen. You'd better have a second set of eyes to look for
traffic while you are doing it too. Flying through a thunderstorm can also make it
lose its position (don't ask me how I know).

"G.R. Patterson III" wrote:


Don't laugh. He's only missing one step in there. If you turn the LORAN off,
fly the plane more than a few miles, and turn it back on again at a different
location, it won't lock in. All it would take is for somebody to take the plane,
fly a bit, notice the LORAN is on and turn it off, then return to base. My
Foster unit has been known to do this after having been moved as little as
twenty miles, but it usually takes more than that.

George Patterson
A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that
you look forward to the trip.

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"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759

(Ben Jackson) wrote in message news:KxM0c.156475$jk2.596429@attbi_s53...
In article DtL0c.11396$ko6.199028@attbi_s02,
Jay Honeck wrote:

Yesterday, for the first time since I bought Atlas in 2002, EVERYTHING in
the panel worked as designed all at the same time!

None of it is Narco, obviously.

Dan

None of it is Narco, obviously.

Actually, the audio panel, both VORs, both COMS, and the DME are ALL Narco.

I really don't know what everyone bitches about them for -- they've worked
well for me.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay, I'm with on on that. I put a KX155 in last year, taking out an MX11 and a
NAV11. The Nav in the KX155 is not anywhere near as sensitive as the Narco
Navs. I do like the digital flip-flop on the NAV, which is a new capability,
and the fact that I now have dual glide slopes (although the second one is
useless because of the location of the glideslope antenna which gets shadowed
by the nose).

Jay Honeck wrote:

None of it is Narco, obviously.

Actually, the audio panel, both VORs, both COMS, and the DME are ALL Narco.

I really don't know what everyone bitches about them for -- they've worked
well for me.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

--
--Ray Andraka, P.E.
President, the Andraka Consulting Group, Inc.
401/884-7930 Fax 401/884-7950
email
http://www.andraka.com

"They that give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin, 1759

Jay, I'm with on on that. I put a KX155 in last year, taking out an MX11
and a
NAV11. The Nav in the KX155 is not anywhere near as sensitive as the
Narco
Navs. I do like the digital flip-flop on the NAV, which is a new
capability,

I went with the new Narco Com 810, which is a slide-in replacement for the
Com 120, and gives you digital flip-flop capability.

It's been utterly bulletproof, and is a joy to work.

Narco has been okay for me.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
news:dLQ0c.18910$PR3.433669@attbi_s03...
None of it is Narco, obviously.

Actually, the audio panel, both VORs, both COMS, and the DME are ALL
Narco.

I really don't know what everyone bitches about them for -- they've worked
well for me.
--
One at a time....

Jay Honeck wrote:
Actually, the audio panel, both VORs, both COMS, and the DME are ALL Narco.

So what was the fix for the cross-talk problem?

So what was the fix for the cross-talk problem?

Fly 2 miles away from Iowa City...

But seriously, I wasn't considering that as something "not working" -- it's
just an annoyance when I'm taxiing out to the active.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Somehow, I suspect if Jay DID put it in Atlas, in a year or two the
thing would be working like a charm.

(Ben Jackson) wrote in message news:KxM0c.156475$jk2.596429@attbi_s53...
In article DtL0c.11396$ko6.199028@attbi_s02,
Jay Honeck wrote:

Yesterday, for the first time since I bought Atlas in 2002, EVERYTHING in
the panel worked as designed all at the same time!

Jay, I realize you are in a dire predicament. That's why I'm willing
to make you a great deal on the Apollo LORAN 604T from my Comanche.
It fits in a standard height radio tray, and does not appear to lock on
to anything, though it does light up and try. The selector knobs are a
little gunked up and miss clicks sometimes. It doesn't weigh much. It
hasn't been possible to update the database for years, but you won't
mind because the interface is too obtuse for you to find anything in the
db anyway.

Think of it as an avionics lightning rod for your panel.