PC flight simulators

In message , Bjørnar Bolsøy
writes

I was wondering if anyone in this NG play simulators?
If so, which one? What's the best out there, currently.

There is no "best one". (Purists would say that the only realistic
simulator soaks you in gasoline and ignites you if you get shot down...
but that's an artifact of any simulation of combat)


First question, what phase of history interests you? Stick-and-string
biplanes, WW2, fast jets? Those are the three main areas (Korea is
generally underrepresented, IMHO, but WW2 is the period I find I like
best on current implementations)

Secondly, do you want a 'realistic' detailed simulation where you're
trying to synchronise RPMs and manage manifold pressure on your engines,
or do you want a 'combat' simulation where the engine controls consist
of 'a throttle' and you're left free to concentrate on flying around
blowing things up? (Personally I like the latter...)


My current flight sim is "Il-2 Forgotten Battles", having enjoyed the
predecessor. WW2 period, a less-travelled theatre, and a very good
execution; with the ability to turn the detail up or down as desired.
(In my case, down: I can't get good enough SA with a monitor view,
compensate by pegging the stick to turn and see what's going on, and
without flicking that handy difficulty switch end up stalling and
spinning... and once a LaGG-3 decides to spin, it doesn't want to stop.
Less realistic but more fun to 'make' the simulated aircraft be
forgiving)



--
When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite.
W S Churchill

Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk

To address the initial question, the best modern air combat sim (this is
..military after all) is IMHO the Flanker 2/Lo-mac suite of simulations.
Falcon 4 has a dynamic campaign, and a highly interactive cockpit, but lomac
has more planes (Su-27, Su-33, Mig-29, Su-25, F-15, A-10) as well as the
more accurate flight model (and naval ops!). A huge number of other planes,
choppers, ships, and land vehicles round out the package (good eye candy
too!). Rumor has it that the Russian military used a similar flight model
in their trainers as in the previous version of the sim, v1.5 (Victor
Pugachev -sp?- praised it highly, but then he was associated with the
product so take that for what it's worth). More details (and demo and
plenty of videos) at http://www.lo-mac.com.

Tony

"Bjørnar Bolsøy" wrote in message
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I was wondering if anyone in this NG play simulators?
If so, which one? What's the best out there, currently.


Regards...

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If you were flying close formation you could barely hear the howl
right around 89%. We used it on cross-countrys to let people know we
were in town. We'd make a VFR letdown in close formation circling over
town while Lead jockeyed his throttle around that magic 89%. Quite a
few times I've walked away from my bird and there was a car waiting
for me. On the ground it'd howl around 69% - handy to let your crew
chief know you were back early. It was due to the interaction between
the secondary and primary airflow in the nozzle. The J79-19 engine did
not howl, alas, but it made up for that in performance. The Dash-19
also gave a definite sideways motion to the fuselage when acclerated
off idle - kind of like gunning a good hot rod back in the old days in
SoCal.
PACATD - They are being used to good effect in the Part 141 school
(AIMS Community College, Greeley, Colorado) that I taught in and
retired from in 1995. AIMS still works very closely with our local
FADO. The school also uses two AST 300 digital twin trainers - they
are excellent for instrument training. I might add the final sim check
in the professional pilot program is an exact duplication of an ATP
check and the students pass it at about 220 total hours. Also, they
fly the check in two parts, once as copilot and once as PIC. This is
to evaluate CRM. The school has airline check captains give a good
portion of these checks as a quality control monitoring method, too.
FWIW I started that program at AIMS in 1987 as an Eastern rep, then
when EAL got sick I retired from them in 89 and stayed here in
Colorado rather than go back to Miami..
Walt BJ

"WaltBJ" wrote in message
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Number of answers he
If you were flying close formation you could barely hear the howl
right around 89%. We used it on cross-countrys to let people know we
were in town. We'd make a VFR letdown in close formation circling over
town while Lead jockeyed his throttle around that magic 89%. Quite a
few times I've walked away from my bird and there was a car waiting
for me. On the ground it'd howl around 69% - handy to let your crew
chief know you were back early. It was due to the interaction between
the secondary and primary airflow in the nozzle. The J79-19 engine did
not howl, alas, but it made up for that in performance. The Dash-19
also gave a definite sideways motion to the fuselage when acclerated
off idle - kind of like gunning a good hot rod back in the old days in
SoCal.
PACATD - They are being used to good effect in the Part 141 school
(AIMS Community College, Greeley, Colorado) that I taught in and
retired from in 1995. AIMS still works very closely with our local
FADO. The school also uses two AST 300 digital twin trainers - they
are excellent for instrument training. I might add the final sim check
in the professional pilot program is an exact duplication of an ATP
check and the students pass it at about 220 total hours. Also, they
fly the check in two parts, once as copilot and once as PIC. This is
to evaluate CRM. The school has airline check captains give a good
portion of these checks as a quality control monitoring method, too.
FWIW I started that program at AIMS in 1987 as an Eastern rep, then
when EAL got sick I retired from them in 89 and stayed here in
Colorado rather than go back to Miami..
Walt BJ

This is your best post of the night, Dud.

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
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"WaltBJ" wrote in message
om...
Number of answers he
If you were flying close formation you could barely hear the howl
right around 89%. We used it on cross-countrys to let people know we
were in town. We'd make a VFR letdown in close formation circling over
town while Lead jockeyed his throttle around that magic 89%. Quite a
few times I've walked away from my bird and there was a car waiting
for me. On the ground it'd howl around 69% - handy to let your crew
chief know you were back early. It was due to the interaction between
the secondary and primary airflow in the nozzle. The J79-19 engine did
not howl, alas, but it made up for that in performance. The Dash-19
also gave a definite sideways motion to the fuselage when acclerated
off idle - kind of like gunning a good hot rod back in the old days in
SoCal.
PACATD - They are being used to good effect in the Part 141 school
(AIMS Community College, Greeley, Colorado) that I taught in and
retired from in 1995. AIMS still works very closely with our local
FADO. The school also uses two AST 300 digital twin trainers - they
are excellent for instrument training. I might add the final sim check
in the professional pilot program is an exact duplication of an ATP
check and the students pass it at about 220 total hours. Also, they
fly the check in two parts, once as copilot and once as PIC. This is
to evaluate CRM. The school has airline check captains give a good
portion of these checks as a quality control monitoring method, too.
FWIW I started that program at AIMS in 1987 as an Eastern rep, then
when EAL got sick I retired from them in 89 and stayed here in
Colorado rather than go back to Miami..
Walt BJ

I guess this was for me :-) Thanks!
Dudley
"WaltBJ" wrote in message
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Number of answers he
If you were flying close formation you could barely hear the howl
right around 89%. We used it on cross-countrys to let people know we
were in town. We'd make a VFR letdown in close formation circling over
town while Lead jockeyed his throttle around that magic 89%. Quite a
few times I've walked away from my bird and there was a car waiting
for me. On the ground it'd howl around 69% - handy to let your crew
chief know you were back early. It was due to the interaction between
the secondary and primary airflow in the nozzle. The J79-19 engine did
not howl, alas, but it made up for that in performance. The Dash-19
also gave a definite sideways motion to the fuselage when acclerated
off idle - kind of like gunning a good hot rod back in the old days in
SoCal.
PACATD - They are being used to good effect in the Part 141 school
(AIMS Community College, Greeley, Colorado) that I taught in and
retired from in 1995. AIMS still works very closely with our local
FADO. The school also uses two AST 300 digital twin trainers - they
are excellent for instrument training. I might add the final sim check
in the professional pilot program is an exact duplication of an ATP
check and the students pass it at about 220 total hours. Also, they
fly the check in two parts, once as copilot and once as PIC. This is
to evaluate CRM. The school has airline check captains give a good
portion of these checks as a quality control monitoring method, too.
FWIW I started that program at AIMS in 1987 as an Eastern rep, then
when EAL got sick I retired from them in 89 and stayed here in
Colorado rather than go back to Miami..
Walt BJ

"Bjørnar Bolsøy" wrote:

I was wondering if anyone in this NG play simulators?
If so, which one? What's the best out there, currently.

Checked out any of the flight sim groups ?

There's some awesome add-ons for MS Flight Simulator including multiple
screen support. You'll need mutliple PCs and a server though. :-)


Graham

Pooh Bear wrote:
"Bjørnar Bolsøy" wrote:

I was wondering if anyone in this NG play simulators?
If so, which one? What's the best out there, currently.

Checked out any of the flight sim groups ?

There's some awesome add-ons for MS Flight Simulator including
multiple screen support. You'll need mutliple PCs and a server
though. :-)

I don't know what sim it is but this setup looks impressive.
http://jameshart.mine.nu/ngs/flysim.jpg

--
James...
http://www.jameshart.co.uk/

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:27:30 -0000, "James Hart"
wrote:


I don't know what sim it is but this setup looks impressive.
http://jameshart.mine.nu/ngs/flysim.jpg

Check that....
http://www.projectmagenta.com/

based (as your link) on FS2002.


Bye
Andreas

"James Hart" wrote:


I don't know what sim it is but this setup looks impressive.
http://jameshart.mine.nu/ngs/flysim.jpg

I'd sure as hell hate to prang *that* one!...it'd probably kill
you!
--

-Gord.