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Air America breaking news: "USA to fingerprint ALL visitors !!!"
"Oelewapper" wrote in message
... | Dear allies, welcome to the age of digital fascism... : | | Millions of visitors from some of the United States' closest allies soon | will have to be fingerprinted and photographed before entering the country, snip - "the sky is falling, the sky is falling" So - your point is ? I must have spent an accumulated total of 2 hours over the last 5 years, when travelling through Asia, with the local immigration apes trying to work out if it was me or some other white man travelling on my passport. I asked one in KL what the problem was and he told me as tactfullty and as politely as he could, that we all look the same. Fingerprinting and photographing should only take another couple of minutes and could even speed up the process (maybe !!) Think of an alternative, how long would it take to stand in line and work up a DNA sample ? The US is on the list of countries that I'll be visiting in the next couple of years; why don't you look out for me Oelewapper - I'll be showing my finger - just for you. Cheers Dave Kearton |
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On Sat, 3 Apr 2004 07:27:28 +0200 Oelewapper said...
The expansion, which will take effect by Sept. 30, means only diplomats and travelers from Mexico and Canada will not be fingerprinted and photographed when they enter the United States through 115 airports and 14 seaports, said Asa Hutchinson, undersecretary for border and transportation security at the Department of Homeland Security. ... So presumably the easiest way to get in to the US without these stupid fingerprint and photograph checks is to say fly in to Canada and cross over the border by road.... -- Phil Richards London |
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Oelewapper schrieb: snip The expansion, which will take effect by Sept. 30, means only diplomats and travelers from Mexico and Canada will not be fingerprinted and photographed when they enter the United States Don't these countries make up the majority of people entering the US? |
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So the message is visiting the USA is more trouble than its worth so I'll go
some place else. |
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And the American's wonder why US airlines are going broke? This looks like
the final nail in the coffin for UA and AA. When will George ever wake up and realise he's not John Wayne.. "Oelewapper" wrote in message ... Dear allies, welcome to the age of digital fascism... : Millions of visitors from some of the United States' closest allies soon will have to be fingerprinted and photographed before entering the country, U.S. officials said yesterday. Officials said the requirements of the U.S. VISIT program will be expanded this fall to cover about 13 million travelers each year from 27 countries, including Australia, Britain and Japan, whose citizens are allowed to travel within the United States for as many as 90 days without a visa. The program -- an effort to track down criminals, suspected terrorists and travelers who overstay visas -- began Jan. 5 and now applies mainly to about 19 million visitors each year from Central and South America, Africa and Asia. The expansion, which will take effect by Sept. 30, means only diplomats and travelers from Mexico and Canada will not be fingerprinted and photographed when they enter the United States through 115 airports and 14 seaports, said Asa Hutchinson, undersecretary for border and transportation security at the Department of Homeland Security. ... Here is a list of the 27 countries in the Visa Waiver Program whose citizens will have to be photographed and fingerprinted on arrival in the United States under a new program announced today. Andorra Austria AUSTRALIA Belgium Brunei Denmark Finland France Germany Iceland Ireland Italy Japan Liechtenstein Luxembourg Monaco Netherlands New Zealand Norway PORTUGAL San Marino Singapore Slovenia SPAIN Sweden Switzerland UNITED KINGDOM U.S. Will Fingerprint 13 Million More in Fall - Visitors From Close Allies To Be Photographed, Too - By Christopher Lee and Sara Kehaulani Goo - Washington Post Staff Writers - Saturday, April 3, 2004; Page A01 ----- Air America: The greatest CIA-operation ever !!! |
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"Oelewapper" wrote in message
... Dear allies, welcome to the age of digital fascism... : This is not "fascism", unless you're one of those morons who thinks dealing with the DMV and getting fingerprinted for a driver's license is "fascism". When you lace your writing with such stupid hyperbole, you've lost your credibility. You're also mistaken if you think this will be limited to the US. Wealthy democracies will all be implementing these very same procedures. If you doubt me, wait and see what happens after the next round of terrorist attacks. Millions of visitors from some of the United States' closest allies soon will have to be fingerprinted and photographed before entering the country, U.S. officials said yesterday. |
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"nobody760" wrote: So the message is visiting the USA is more trouble than its worth so I'll go some place else. Yeah, that two minute fingerprinting and photo is *sooo* hard after a six-hour plane flight... ....and even with that, it's still going to be faster than most customs checks in 99% of the countries in the world. -- cirby at cfl.rr.com Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations. Slam on brakes accordingly. |
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"Chad Irby" schreef in bericht . com... In article , "nobody760" wrote: So the message is visiting the USA is more trouble than its worth so I'll go some place else. Yeah, that two minute fingerprinting and photo is *sooo* hard after a six-hour plane flight... ...and even with that, it's still going to be faster than most customs checks in 99% of the countries in the world. That's not true. US immigration queues are amongst the longest in the world. Sjoerd |
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"Chad Irby" wrote in message . com... In article , "nobody760" wrote: So the message is visiting the USA is more trouble than its worth so I'll go some place else. Yeah, that two minute fingerprinting and photo is *sooo* hard after a six-hour plane flight... ...and even with that, it's still going to be faster than most customs checks in 99% of the countries in the world. You know this as a fact, do you? Please note that we all have the rest of the world to visit. Why visit a country which treats us as criminals? |
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"Quantum Foam Guy" wrote in message ... "Oelewapper" wrote in message ... Dear allies, welcome to the age of digital fascism... : This is not "fascism", unless you're one of those morons who thinks dealing with the DMV and getting fingerprinted for a driver's license is "fascism". When you lace your writing with such stupid hyperbole, you've lost your credibility. Please note that fingerprinting is not nearly as common in, for example, the UK, as in the USA. Here, you have to be suspected of a crime to be foingerprinted, and if you are innocent, those prints are destroyed. You're also mistaken if you think this will be limited to the US. Wealthy democracies will all be implementing these very same procedures. If you doubt me, wait and see what happens after the next round of terrorist attacks. We have had many, many terrorist attacks in the UK (many financed by the USA) and have never founnd this necessary or useful. I am 67 and have never had my finger prints taken. If the present government were to introduce it, then, in spite of being a life long member opf the Labour party, at elections I would vote against them. It matters that much. So, I doubt you. Other countries are not so Millions of visitors from some of the United States' closest allies soon will have to be fingerprinted and photographed before entering the country, U.S. officials said yesterday. There won't be as many millions in future. |
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